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Post by King V on Oct 30, 2014 15:30:03 GMT -8
The trial for the murders of Chairy Potter and Shing Meteoryte shall now begin! "My goodness, the game has only just begun and we've already lost two of our protagonists. Let's hope this is not an ill omen for the rest of you..." Since there are 2 bodies for this trial, you may vote for either 1 culprit or 2 culprits. The Player with the most votes at the end of the trial will be executed. If 2 Players are tied for first, they will both be executed. Begin debate.
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Trial #1
Oct 30, 2014 16:38:21 GMT -8
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Post by The Viscount on Oct 30, 2014 16:38:21 GMT -8
Let us begin. I would like to begin by stating a very simple theory. I believe that the murderer first killed Shing Meteoryte, and then killed Chairy Potter. I will elaborate soon. Any objections at the time?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2014 17:33:57 GMT -8
For my show tonight I'll dispel the illusion behind the murders! Now then, let's start with the basic idea of how Shing was murdered. He was found dead in the lounge with a knife in his back. The primary items of notice are the coconut found near the body and the knife in his back. After inspecting the body, there was a bruise on the back of Shing's dead, which I deduced was caused by the coconut due to it being cracked. This however did not cause a knockout because its weight was not 3 or higher. It was used to stun him to stab him in the back repeatedly afterwards, which can clearly be seen by the knife wounds and the knife itself. This knife is one of the 6 kitchen knives in the kitchen, and the coconut came from the refrigerator as well. As for Chairy's murder, it was also very simple. The weapons of choice were the lamp and scissors, both found in some of the extra player rooms. These items were currently found in the first floor hallway, right next to room of the murder. After examining Chairy's body I noticed there was also a bruise on his head and a slit throat, which was from the reports. There was a light blood trail leading to both of these items from his body, making it clear that these were the murder weapons. Both these murders seem very rushed and not exactly well planned. And due to said rush... I caught a very suspicious person who was with Chairy right before his death. For my next trick, I'll recount the tale of my events that faithful night of the murders. I was in my room when suddenly, there was a loud banging at my door! After calling for help, Apollo and Chairy arrived on the scene to help, however the culprit was already gone. They left behind a dog plushie which carved on it was a message basically telling me if I wanted the Spade I had to go to the Lounge, which was covered in darkness. I decided to take this bait to see where it would lead me, however I was knocked out once I arrived. However before I got there... I first had to leave my room and cross through the player rooms and the first floor hallway. Apollo had already gone to bed so it was Chairy by himself, however as soon as I exited my room I noticed Siren had just arrived right then, but I payed no heed otherwise and went. After I got knocked out, a time reversal seemed to happen and I was back in my room. Once I got out, I saw a dead Chairy in the player rooms. Therefore... the last person seen with Chairy was none other than Siren. Siren, I claim you as the killer of both Shing and Chairy! It's most likely you killed Chairy, and due to the incentive given to us it's most likely you wanted to kill two people, so it adds up!
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Trial #1
Oct 30, 2014 17:46:50 GMT -8
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Post by The Viscount on Oct 30, 2014 17:46:50 GMT -8
I agree with you, on the note that Siren most likely killed Chairy, however, Chairy was seen at the door to his room. He had gone in and back out, meaning someone else could have done it, but for now, Siren is our prime suspect. However, let's think for a moment. Did Siren kill Shing, too? I think we should work on finding all of our possibilities first. I think it is rather suspicious that we have the choice to vote for two killers, so I think we should work on discerning who else could have done it. Might Siren have killed both? Yes. Did she? That is the question that we need to answer now.
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Post by Hereiss Aelori on Oct 30, 2014 18:02:23 GMT -8
Did Siren really kill both Chairy and Shing? I'm not entirely convinced that she committed the murders. For the most part, I agree with the points already brought up, but my investigation revealed that Chairy's throat wound was quite deep, too deep for a simple pair of scissors to cut. I would say something larger, perhaps a knife, was the murder weapon. It also seems too convenient that a pair of scissors was simply left by the lamp used to knock out the victim... perhaps a red herring is involved. Although I do wonder how the culprit managed to avoid the blood. Given how much blood was shed during both of these murders, the culprit should be soaked by now. And I don't see anyone here with a large amount of blood on them...
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Post by The City [EclipseZwolf] on Oct 30, 2014 18:08:47 GMT -8
You reasoning for accusing Siren is weak. As you have obviously shown from your own story of the murder, you REMEMBER the first time before time was reversed. If that was the case so to would Siren. As such Siren may have acted differently, much as you did. That same logic applies to all of us. Chairy Potter may have acted differently. I say you should prove why Siren and Chairy would have both gone to the Player Hallway EARLIER. Since obviously if you left your room at relatively the same time before and after the reversal the killer must have arrived in the player hallway before you, but you clearly saw Siren AFTER you left your room.
You are blaming Siren for the murder of Chairy simply because you saw the two together before the crime, but they weren't necessarily together after the time reversal. Besides who was the one who knocked you out? Are you also claiming that person to be Siren?
All your evidence is circumstantial and involves too many assumptions. Show me some evidence!
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Post by Hereiss Aelori on Oct 30, 2014 18:13:28 GMT -8
The time reversal also bothers me... what sort of ungodly power could have done that to us? I'm going to need some time to think through all of this carefully...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2014 18:20:57 GMT -8
Did Siren really kill both Chairy and Shing? I'm not entirely convinced that she committed the murders. For the most part, I agree with the points already brought up, but my investigation revealed that Chairy's throat wound was quite deep, too deep for a simple pair of scissors to cut. I would say something larger, perhaps a knife, was the murder weapon. It also seems too convenient that a pair of scissors was simply left by the lamp used to knock out the victim... perhaps a red herring is involved. Although I do wonder how the culprit managed to avoid the blood. Given how much blood was shed during both of these murders, the culprit should be soaked by now. And I don't see anyone here with a large amount of blood on them... Verbal Bullet - Bloody Clothes In the extra player room 1, in the wardrobe there were bloody clothes. These clothes had come from the laundry room, and it can be reasoned that the person wore these when they committed the murders to avoid blood. Also, since there was only one set of them it can be said that only one person committed both murders! If there were a second person, they would also have needed a way to get rid of the blood themselves as well, however after a large search I found no such thing. Therefore, if it can be reasoned that one person committed one murder, someone else committed the other murder as well. Now allow me to recount another tale for you all. After I discovered Chairy's body I went to go search for the other body since no investigation period started yet. As I went to check player room 1 immediately after the murder, I once again saw Siren. However, this time as soon as I entered the room, it was noted that Siren noticed me and hurried out of the room immediately. After finding the next body quickly, I went back to that same room and did some searching. There I found the bloody clothes of which I just spoke of. If Siren's reaction to me in a very suspicious room where a very important piece of evidence was found isn't incriminating, then what is? Byakuya if you wish to claim that my point is now weak still, then please offer a better suggestion. If you have any other ideas please share them, but I almost almost completely positive that Siren is the current murderer! I believe that's all for now. See you next illusion!
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Post by Pokedude12 on Oct 30, 2014 18:25:04 GMT -8
Topic: Lack of Blood [VERBAL BULLET: Used Soap Bottle) [VERBAL BULLET: Missing Clothes) Well you see! I think they washed their clothes and took new ones out of the Laundry Room's basket! I don't quite remember if the clothes there are squeaky clean like my awesome crystal ball; but that means there are more clothes lying around somewhere! Plus, the washers and driers are empty, except for... That... thing... Of course... I couldn't find bloody footprints anywhere on the scene though... And not in F1 Hall either... Hm...
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Trial #1
Oct 30, 2014 18:30:17 GMT -8
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Post by The Viscount on Oct 30, 2014 18:30:17 GMT -8
Unfortunately, Kaito's reasoning holds up. There was only one set of clothes. Both Shing's and Chairy's deaths were very bloody, so that there was only one set of clothes is quite incriminating. I would also like to mention something. The scissors. In my journal, when we arrived, I noted this: "Room 1: Scissors are engraved with "Investigator." I checked the Scissors used, and well enough, they were the same scissors. I can't rebutt anything. Whether red herring or murder weapon, the scissors prove that the killer spent time in that room, before or after, to change or to grab a weapon for murder.
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Post by Ryohei Sasagawa[Hero] on Oct 30, 2014 19:08:00 GMT -8
Alrighty there were three notes placed all over the mansion two by the bodies and one in the kitchen this lead me to believe that someone who had a writing implement wrote these notes and put them up as they killed...
right now I think it is Hagakure as he was in the laundry room with myself and kaito at some point and I just don't trust him for some reason...
I think it went down like this Hagakure hid in the Extra room 10 and attacked chairy when he went into the room...chairy tried to get away but was killed when escaping into his own room there the first note was placed...
then after the time reversal wherever Hagakure was before it he came across Shing killing hitting him with the coconut he killend him leaving his corpse in the lobby...he then when to the dinning room left a note then to the kitchen after dragging a chair and placing the note on it and the chair next to a stove and leaving the knife on the table
he got the lamp in one of the extra rooms the scissors is a red herring and maybe shing had it to defend himself... Thats all I got...
I don't think this has all the pieces but meh...
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Post by Hereiss Aelori on Oct 30, 2014 19:10:51 GMT -8
I wanted this to end smoothly, but it appears I have no choice. The culprit who killed Chairy Potter is Siren Sings. The murder weapon used was a Kitchen Knife with a Lamp to support and knock out the victim. The culprit only needed to wait outside in the dormitory until someone exited and knock them out with the Lamp. They then used the Kitchen Knife to slit the victim's throat. I still believe the Scissors left in the Hallway is a red herring. The Lamp is the only item with the power to knock someone out, and the Scissors lying next to it automatically correlates the two. I think this is too suspicious to ignore. Why do I suspect this? VERBAL BULLET - SIREN'S CLOTHES Siren's clothing is different. I've noticed as soon as we arrived in the trial. As soon as the change of clothes was mentioned, this is the only explanation for the murder! As for the culprit who killed Shing Meteoryte, it seems everyone is ignorant of the trap that was set up in the Lounge. You can tell just from looking at the state of the sofas and chandelier, there was clearly a trap set in the room! This trap involved tying some sort of rope around the legs of the sofas, and the chandelier to drop the coconut found at the scene from a large height. Furthermore, the cause of death is not listed in the murder reports. I believe the stab wounds were coverup for the true cause of death, the blunt force trauma caused by the trap! Sadly, the culprit has covered their tracks all too well and I am unable to discern their identity...
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Trial #1
Oct 30, 2014 19:16:01 GMT -8
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Post by The Viscount on Oct 30, 2014 19:16:01 GMT -8
[THEORY TIME] Might be a bit premature, but I will go ahead and forge a possible theory from what we know... 1. The Culprit: Siren Sings. She was seen with the victim, Chairy Potter, and she was seen acting quite suspicious. I have no doubt that she is our prime suspect in this matter. 2. The Victims: Shing Meteoryte and Chairy Potter, in that order. 3. The Murder Weapons: Two kitchen knives, a coconut, and a lamp. 4. The Murder Route: Kitchen -> Lounge -> Hallway -> Laundry Room -> Dorm Hallway -> Extra Room 1. 5. The Closing Argument: It all starts with Kaito Kid's spade being stolen and hidden from him, for the killer to use as bait. Siren is in the Lounge with Shing, shortly after ontaining the murder weapons, when she decides to strike. First stabbing him in the back multiple times, then finishing him off by bashing his head, perhaps multiple times, with a coconut. This explains why the cause of death in the murder report was Unknown. Next, Kaito approaches the lounge after getting Siren's blackmail. She knocks him out with the intent of framing him. However, time is rolled back, and I suspect it is rolled back to shortly before or after Shing's death. After all, Kaito was in his room after I met with him, and I suspect that to be around the same time. Now, Siren drags the body out to the Hallway, and makes for the laundry room. She attempts to wash her clothes and change, however that was around when Nightime was declared. Therefore, the washers and dryers obviously wouldn't work, so she just took a change of clothes and headed to an extra room. However, on the way, she had a problem... Chairy Potter exits his room. He sees Siren, but at that time, Siren knocks him out with the lamp. After all, he had a large bruise on the top of his head, and that lamp was sorta heavy. Anyways, fearing the worst, Siren then takes the other knife and slashes Chairy's throat. As Kirigiri said, the cut was too deep for the scissors to logically make. Anyways, Chairy now dead, Siren heads off to the Extra Room 1, changes, hides her clothes, plants the scissors as fake evidence, and runs off to her own room... Well, any objections at this time?
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Trial #1
Oct 30, 2014 19:36:45 GMT -8
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Post by The Viscount on Oct 30, 2014 19:36:45 GMT -8
Oh, and one more thing... Weak Point: "I think it is Hagakure"Verbal Bullet - Hagakure's Locked Room Hagakure could not have committed this crime. Late last night, myself and the late Chairy Potter found ourselves outside of Kaito Kid's room as he was screaming for help. Turns out, nothing was actually wrong, but I checked Hagakure's room. It was locked for sure. Shortly after, when the body discovery announcement sounded, I checked the room again, and it was still locked. Not only that but Hagakure himself came out of his room shortly after. He was inside his room, not out. As well as this, not enough time passed for Hagakure to go, gather equipment, kill two people, clean up, and return to his room. It was simply impossible. Hagakure must have been inside his room the whole time. Plus, his clothes haven't changed, I don't think. So tell me, if Hagakure had done it, how did he avoid the blood? Does the prosecution have a rebuttal for my statement here?
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Post by Daiwa Scarlet on Oct 30, 2014 19:45:34 GMT -8
So... while I was busy trying to decide what to use for my bento, a note slid under the doorway.
“Day 1 – Shing Meteoryte died on this day. He suffered a fatal wound to the head. Death was apparently instantaneous. The culprit was found and executed.” “Day 2 – Sen Yarizui died on this day. She was stabbed multiple times before having her throat slit. Blood trails were everywhere. The culprit remained undiscovered.” “Day 3 – The Mastermind declared no murdering for this day and all was silent.”
I'm confused as to why I was the dead here...
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