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Post by Kami Luna on Mar 21, 2014 4:24:29 GMT -8
"Well, this is a fun sight." "Looks like you have them all confused." "Well done. Well done."
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Post by The City [EclipseZwolf] on Mar 21, 2014 12:21:56 GMT -8
Let's clean up some of the nonsense lying around and find the pieces of golden truth. In response to you Raiden, you are mostly correct. The Blood-Heart is a title granted to the ones closest to mutating. The process that I decided would be best to do this relates to a power, but none of you found the document explaining it so I feel like I would be too nice if I told you exactly about said power. I do not need a "Blood-Heart" for any reason currently, the title was inspired by something and that is the end of that story. You still haven't told me exactly what this mutation involving being the "Blood-Heart" is. Now on to you Mystio. If it was that simple to just have something survive getting struck by eternity once, let alone twelve times, we wouldn't be standing here right now. As to whether Eternity is me... Well did you know that Aeturnus is Latin for Eternity? Regardless of whether I am eternity in truth I am most definitely Eternity in name. I would not call myself a mistake, but rather an unexpected evolution due to an unprecedented situation. I am human, although like with my face, I don't quite follow the rules that normally apply to "being" human. My change was entirely due to my own acts. No other human or being had anything to do with it. My Magnum Opus was created by only one person, me. As to the problem that you guys are assuming I am seeking a solution towards... I haven't seen anything that I would describe as "close."
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Post by King V on Mar 21, 2014 14:34:45 GMT -8
You've already admitted to the problem, Aeturnus. The human race was consuming too much energy with their contraptions and the world was slowly dying, correct? Well then, how about this? In order to try and quench the world's energy needs, you went through many human experiments, trapping people within this tower and using their blood to create blood weapons. Along the way, you managed to create your own blood weapon, supposedly much more powerful than any other. You tried to duplicate it with the other humans you trapped here, but inevitably failed, explaining the stone and the blood in the Replica Room. Using the power of your own blood weapon and the power from the blood of the other humans you had trapped in the tower, you turned back time several hundred years, before humanity was entrenched in their energy problem. However, the energy output from your blood weapon alone wasn't enough to sustain humanity, and so you required a second blood weapon with equal power to yours to quench the human race's energy needs. You originally intended to save humanity, and I can't think of a reason you would want to abandon them after all this effort. Sacrificing a small portion humans from the future for this goal was for the greater good of the human race, after all.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2014 16:34:08 GMT -8
The mutation is in regards to the particle found in the blood of living beings, which you discovered and named Aeturnum. And the power is the manipulation of that particle, which generates a vast amount of energy.
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Post by Sesarim Ylesva on Mar 21, 2014 16:44:51 GMT -8
I've been wondering about this for a while now, but do you idiots think it is possible that the asshole does not have the control we believe he has? In the book it's stated that he, "It was then that the man surrendered to the inevitable and closed his eyes." If he was a willing wanted for time-travel/Eternity/whatever he would not have been surrendering. Rather he would have been defying fate. There is also the fact that he actually did not seem to have activated it. The book states that it occurred when, "The massive gears of the tower churned to life and the tower chimed for midnight."
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2014 18:12:26 GMT -8
And before you all start wondering what I'm talking about, I found this interesting document:
“Aeturnum(Name coined by the one who discovered them, Aeturnus): A particle found in the blood of living beings, sentient beings appear to have more than non-sentient beings. Manipulating these particles allows incredible energy generation, but is difficult to control. This is due to the particle being a direct connection to the workings of space and time. We are currently investigating ways to better control the energy generated. Aeturnums appear to be bound to the one whose blood they were drawn from and only that person may control them. The bind seems to break in situations involving high stress and emotions. At this moment Aeturnums can switch owners.”
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Post by King V on Mar 21, 2014 18:43:24 GMT -8
I see. This makes everything clear. In order to utilize the energy generated by Aeturnums in the blood of the humans Aeturnus trapped here, he had to create a blood weapon. It seems like the blood weapon is the key to controlling the energy generated by Aeturnums, and Aeturnus's blood weapon, being as powerful as it is, can control a vast quantity of these particles, thus enabling him to generate a lot of energy. That's how he managed to turn back time to this extent and live for so long despite being human. However, the energy still wasn't enough for whatever Aeturnus had planned for, so he requires us to forge another blood weapon as strong as his. And how would he do that? Aeturnums break their bonds during moments of high stress. Meaning that forcing us to murder each other would enable us to steal each others' Aeturnums. We were also helpfully provided blood weapons for this very task. When we had gathered enough Aeturnums, then our blood weapons would be powerful enough to synchronize with his. Then with two weapons to control the Aeturnums, the energy output would be adequate for humanity's survival.
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Post by Ravan on Mar 21, 2014 19:31:07 GMT -8
Looks like you guys have been hard at work with your theories. In regards to what you found Raiden, I think this changes quite a bit. For starters, the report mentions situations in high stress, not necessarily murder. This means that we could produce a blood heart without having to kill anyone. In fact, it also mentions that while Aeturnums are higher in value in sentient beings, they are also existent in non-sentient beings. What also disturbs me is what you mentioned, Nue. If we look outside, we can already see that there are signs of civilisation, humanity hasn't kicked the bucket just yet, it seems, and I'm wondering why. One potential thought that I have is that the destruction of humanity detailed in the Crimson book may have actually been an alternative timeline. One that we've recovered from. It would certainly make sense, as Seija said, Aeturnus doesn't have the control that we believe him to have over traveling through time as the book mentions that Aeturnus surrendered to the inevitable, which one could assume to be death. I may be overthinking things, but I did find a pocket watch in the Room of Noon with an engraving on the back that stated "Death shall never be the end and the end shall never be death!", take that implication as you will.
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Post by King V on Mar 21, 2014 19:48:57 GMT -8
I already mentioned time travel before, Lloyd. The pocketwatch is certainly interesting. I had forgotten about that particular detail. I believe I know what Aeturnus's intentions are now. Despite being able to control time, he was growing old slowly over the years, and is close enough to dying that he must consider old age as a factor. In order to stop this, he tried to forge another blood weapon of the same strength as his own, but was unable to, likely due to his old age and subsequent lack of Aeturnum particles. So, he turned back time a few hundred years, back when humanity was flourishing, to cultivate another sentient life form to forge a blood weapon. Once Aeturnus had finished creating the second blood weapon, he would use it to become a master of time and space. Since the Aeturnum particles are connected to the fabric of time and space, and they can exchange owners during situations of high stress, killing the player who's blood weapon becomes capable of the mutation would allow Aeturnus to absorb their Aeturnum particles and thus perfect his own blood weapon. All of this done to avoid death and become immortal.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2014 20:03:27 GMT -8
The very first thing we heard when awaking in this tower was that phrase: "Death is never the End and the End shall never be Death!"
I'm surprised none of you seemed to remember it.
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Post by Sesarim Ylesva on Mar 21, 2014 20:18:45 GMT -8
You idiots are confusing me, isn't it more likely that the asshole lost control of his blood weapon as a result of aging and is now trying to get a strong person's Aeturnumns in order to stop it from going crazy? Actually that could have been the disaster that destroys humanity.
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Post by The City [EclipseZwolf] on Mar 21, 2014 20:26:33 GMT -8
Well then, lets address these issues. First, the source of energy I discovered is quite bottomless and with minor difficulties that energy may be controlled. This energy is from the particles known as Aeturnums that appear in the blood of living beings. What do you do when you need to do something that you cannot do with just your body? You forge a tool. Blood Weapons are tools used to draw forth Aeturnum's power. Someone would likely have realized this should they have succeeded in a murder and trial because they would have in addition to absorbing Aeturnums would increase their proficiency at manipulating Aeturnums themselves. Next, this has been a needle in my side for a while and I just want it out of the way. I wrote the crimson book and in it I detailed the events leading up to this very moment. Of course, one event in that book was a "possible" scenario. The ending in which I sit upon this clock as the Tower chimes midnight all alone. That time has come and yet here we all are. Simply put because in that book I described a worst case scenario. For the sake of keeping the current order of events in line, I placed a bookmark just before the ending part of the book. This was to symbolize that our current location in time was before the bad ending. So no, that situation hasn't happened and please stop inferring things assuming it did. Addressing the following issues, Nue why would I take control another's blood weapon? Didn't the file say that Aeturnums are only controllable by their owner? Lets assume I did get the Aeturnums in the end, but I would be perfectly capable of controlling them via my own weapon which puts all of yours to shame to be quite frank. Now, why in the world would I need more energy to save the human race when I have a Bottomless energy source? Seems kind of ironic, considering that even if regular weapons could only draw on a limited amount at a time, quality could be replaced with quantity and the solution applied. No one said I had to be the only one drawing water from this well. Let me end this with a few tidbits, What proof do you have the world and/or humanity was destroyed? Have you considered the possibility that humanity was saved back then? At that time I was around a regular adult's age so it has been almost 800 years. A lot can happen in that time. The reason I don't show my face... The reason it is forgotten in time... Is that my face hasn't aged a day since I discovered "that." Growing old is a literal impossibility for me. "The end shall never be death" Why would I avoid something that could never hit me? Why would I solve a problem that was already fixed? I am afraid your guesses as to my purpose, are wrong.
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Post by Sesarim Ylesva on Mar 21, 2014 20:54:34 GMT -8
We'll now Asshole your explanation is all well and good, but I'm finding a few issues in what you said. According to the Immortal project stated that the attempt of transferring an object to an immortal state failed. You on the other hand you just now stated that you were what could be an otherwise immortal like state. As such I can only assume that either you lied just now, or the project folder was false. Also your little speech about worse case does little to address the thought that you lost control. In fact, in some ways it makes it more likely since, if it is true that it has unlimited energy, a blood weapon that could control time could probably destroy reality. Thus a stronger weapon would be needed to destroy it before then.
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Post by King V on Mar 21, 2014 20:55:45 GMT -8
Hmm... humanity being saved isn't impossible, but the tower being so completely out of place would indicate that you transported it through time first. I'll dwell on that later. There is clearly a problem that you need to solve, and you intend to solve it by creating another blood weapon on par with yours. There is something that bothers me. From the way this sounds, "It had been a rather far-fetched hope that one of them who be able to _________ his title." Combined with this, "Then they must ________ me. I guess in the rules when I said they needed two I was lying. My promise to the ______ will remain true!" It seems like you want to be killed or overtaken somehow. And this is for creating something greater than, pressumably some unknown threat for the problem you're trying to solve.
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Post by The City [EclipseZwolf] on Mar 21, 2014 21:12:18 GMT -8
Your argument is sound Seija. It is indeed correct that we failed in creating immortal objects and I guess you could define my current state as immortal.
That means...
We failed at intentionally transforming something into that state. My own predicament was a rather interesting side effect, so the Immortal Project's failure and my own state are unrelated.
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