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Post by Ryo Asuka on Mar 9, 2016 23:01:44 GMT -8
*Kigurumi rolls up her sleeves*
"Well, Mr. Nox, since you asked, I would like to explain something to you. Domes are built for their structural integrity. Take an egg, for example. No matter how hard you try to break it when it is vertical, it is nearly impossible without a great enough force. Also, when something breaks glass, it needs to be large enough to actually break. For instance, if you throw a baseball through a window, the hole will be small. So, unless something was practically as big as that hole, then it would probably not have shattered that much of it."
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Post by The City [EclipseZwolf] on Mar 10, 2016 0:28:55 GMT -8
"Well, Young Lady. That sounded smart. It sure did. But I don't believe a word of it. Unless you have proof, I will not accept those little statements."
"Besides, even if I did, assuming the item went up AND DOWN we have a different consideration. It smashed more in on the way down. So even under your 'logic' it would only need to be HALF as big as the hole. Possibly even less since the two holes would have joined to make a bigger hole. Just because part of the hole was made from inside out does not mean it could not have gotten larger from outside influences."
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Post by Daiwa Scarlet on Mar 10, 2016 2:59:04 GMT -8
*Isumi thinks for a while*
"Mirai, when did you notice the bedsheets? I assume it was after the murder... So the culprit had to return to retrieve and dispose of it...
Having read some of this timeline's history, I would like to bring up that Kubota could still be alive. The body is burned beyond recognition and it is probably possible to scale the wall of this mansion with the right equipment. Perhaps the initial events of the timeline had not diverged enough to alter this.
I also found that the dust had been blown off the window sill in the attic. This means that the window had likely been opened recently.
There is also something missing from the shed. Would the ones that had gone into the garden know anything of it? It was a circular object sitting in the corner."
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Post by John Dark Souls on Mar 10, 2016 10:21:32 GMT -8
 "*sigh* I wonder why do you people not even look like trying to solve this... Isn't this an event made specifically for you..? How about you at least pretend you trying? With those kinds of methods you will never get to the truth of this case... No matter how simple it is... Ah well... It is getting sad to even look it so it seems I have no other choice but get done with it so I can go back home already... Well then, lets start..."  "What will help you solve this case isn't solving how the glass was broken or when it was done. Because in the first place, that was an action made to make the murder look like a curse as well as the action used to lure the serious about her duty Youmu-san that was only one who didn't leave her post even as somebody was shouting on first floor attracting everyone else. In that kind of situation, what do you think Youmu-san will prioritize: some prankster shouting on first floor or sound of glass breaking on 3rd floor..?"  "But, while that prankster did keep everyone focused on tackling, tasering, pinning and punching me because of that prank, they also created alibi for all who were distracted and actually went down and stayed there to bully me together... But, I was kinda unconscious at the time not to mention too shocked before and after it, so I couldn't tell just who was or wasn't there... It would help if Shion-san who kept pinning me there in Dining Hall even as I was out of it and somebody else named everyone who was there in the Dining Hall... Oh, it would also help if everyone provided testimonies on what they were doing at that time too... And by that I mean "do it"..." |
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Post by Ryo Asuka on Mar 10, 2016 10:30:42 GMT -8
"Hm. Even so, then what was used? I don't see anything around here that could have been thrown through the ceiling. In any case, I remember there being some wire in the boiler room and then some by the body. So if it WAS a murder, then maybe that was used to strangle her or something?"
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Post by The City [EclipseZwolf] on Mar 10, 2016 10:30:43 GMT -8
"Based on my observations. Youmu was on the ground and was there LONGER than ANY of the glass shards. Based on this I am certain that Youmu was not lured to the third floor by the sound of the glass breaking."
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Post by Ryo Asuka on Mar 10, 2016 10:32:21 GMT -8
"Mr. Nox? How could you possibly tell how long glass has been lying on the ground?"
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Post by The City [EclipseZwolf] on Mar 10, 2016 10:39:04 GMT -8
"When a man works with Time as long as I have, you starting getting a kind of... Temporal Sense. With naught but a glance I can reasonably determine how long something has been there. I do need to know how time affects things after all."
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Post by John Dark Souls on Mar 10, 2016 10:41:39 GMT -8
"Based on my observations. Youmu was on the ground and was there LONGER than ANY of the glass shards. Based on this I am certain that Youmu was not lured to the third floor by the sound of the glass breaking.""That is no good Nox-san... If you want to disprove a point, you have to do it like this:" Verbal Bullet - there is glass above youmu, there is no glass below her"Youmu-san fell down on the floor dead before glass was broken, thus she wasn't lured out by it." "Hm. Even so, then what was used? I don't see anything around here that could have been thrown through the ceiling. In any case, I remember there being some wire in the boiler room and then some by the body. So if it WAS a murder, then maybe that was used to strangle her or something?" "That point is simply wrong because:" Verbal bullet - Only visible injuries on Youmu are blunt injuries and small cuts from the glass"Thus she was definitely not strangled." |
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Post by Ryo Asuka on Mar 10, 2016 10:43:01 GMT -8
"Alright, then what was the wire doing there? If it wasn't used on her, then why was it there?"
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Post by John Dark Souls on Mar 10, 2016 10:50:54 GMT -8
"Alright, then what was the wire doing there? If it wasn't used on her, then why was it there?" "What did the gold bar do in a fridge back in the other place? Do not just take any object you have in sight and assume that it is related to the case unless you can actually prove it being related. And if you don't know how it is, stop trying to focus the topic on it seeming related without any basis whatsoever please." |
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Post by Ryo Asuka on Mar 10, 2016 11:11:50 GMT -8
"Alright, so operating on your and Nox's theory, someone either lured her to the Observatory or knocked her out and dragged her, used some blunt object to bludgeon her to death, and then the murderer somehow managed to break the ceiling from the inside. Still, we have yet to find anything used to break the observatory, the murder weapon, or the murderer. How the murder happened means nothing unless we can find a culprit and the weapons they used."
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Post by John Dark Souls on Mar 10, 2016 11:50:55 GMT -8
 "Though it pains me, I agree with you that Youmu-san was probably lured out to observatory. Youmu-san was asked to guard second floor by Shion-san. I don't think it is possible that Youmu-san who was considering the possibility of murder most out of everyone would just be taken by surprise and bested like that on her guard post. She has likely been lured out to the 3rd floor by the culprit and then hit from the back. But that on it's own is unlikely too, thus... I think the culprit is somebody Youmu-san didn't expect to be attacked by thus let her guard down. Meaning the culprit is likely somebody who isn't an uninvited guest like me who Youmu-san would be on guard against and is one of her the former classmates." |
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Post by The City [EclipseZwolf] on Mar 10, 2016 12:37:19 GMT -8
"But which of her former classmates could possibly be willing to do that Girl A?"
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Post by John Dark Souls on Mar 10, 2016 12:48:30 GMT -8
 "Good follow there Nox-san, thank y..."  "WHO ARE YOU CALLING GIRL A, WHO!?!#?!$!? I HAVE A NAME TOO YOU KNOW!!"  "*cough* Excuse me... Back to the point... The culprit of this case is the person who was a classmate close to Youmu-san who she didn't expect a betrayal from, the person equally close to Shion-san thus trusted in the same way, the person who was the only other one asked for guard duty, the person who called everyone down to first floor distracting everyone and then when asked to look for Youmu-san murdered her, returned reporting that she didn't find her at her guard post. The culprit is none other than Sova-san!" |
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