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Post by Daedalus on Jan 20, 2015 11:17:48 GMT -8
"And I would ask you to prove that you did not see him again, Yuuji, only even if it were true I can't think of a way to prove such a thing, as you'd need a solid alibi for every moment, and we can't even settle on one for the time in question. I find it commendable that you did not wish to harm him initially, but I think it worth noting by all of us that at one point you snapped and knocked him unconscious. Clearly he had reached the limit of your patience."
"And so, perhaps at least weakened by the wound you had received and then had healed, you weren't in a condition to take Light on directly again. Yet, perhaps seeing him break into Adell's home while you were on your way to your own residence, you realized that he would have to be taken care of, or else he might strike you at some other time when you were weak. With him busy lighting a fire in Adell's home, you knew you could easily catch him unawares. Assuming that you'd taken the poison and the syringe days before for just such a contingency, you snuck in after him, poisoned him, but he broke away and ran off. Using your knowledge of the streets you reached him before I could, confirmed his death, took anything you needed from him, and then left. Possibly when you heard me coming, since you couldn't be sure who it would be and you might not have been sure of your ability to fight them off. And so you went back to Apartment 2-1, disposed of the weapon before reaching your actual room, and rested, secure in the knowledge that Light would no longer harass you."
Ayame exhales. "At least, that is one theory that currently seems to fit all the facts handily, rather than relying on pure supposition."
She smiles at Navarre. "Thank you Navarre. I'm glad I have at least one person around who's willing to ask where the evidence points, rather than just 'she or he could have done it.' This is not about saying who could have. It's about finding out who did. However, as has been pointed out by Sova, there is no need for the poison to have been taken on the day of the killing, especially if it was taken by a student. I wish I could use that fact to clear my name, but sadly, as I'm sure Sova will love to point out again, I am a student. I readily admit it. But so is Yuuji. And so are Sova, Adell, and many others. And non-students have been in the school as well. I've seen town officials there, and it would not surprise me to know that people like Stocke or even our deceased police chief had visited on occasion. The point being, I'm not certain that the movements of people around the school on the day of the murder are relevant to this case, but if you can prove that idea wrong, I welcome it."
"And yes, Viscount. We already know your alibi. Do not assume that we are out to pin this on you, or it might suggest that you have grounds to be considered."
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Post by Satori on Jan 20, 2015 13:14:45 GMT -8
To respond Navarre's question about Asebi. Adell can also confirm that Asebi was at the school.
And to respond to why I didn't hear any gunshots...
Verbal Bullet - Whether you heard a gunshot or not has absolutely no relevance to the trial
That's all I have to say! (And yes. This bullet is legit! XD)
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Post by Ravan on Jan 20, 2015 13:23:14 GMT -8
At this point, as far as I know, the people I want to suspect all seem to have rather hard alibis. Therefore, I'll start off with someone who doesn't really have a very strong one at this point in time. I apologise if this is offensive, but I would like to label Ayame as a suspect for the first round of our trials. We're just acting like idle layabouts at this rate. If you want me to provide more detailed reasoning, I'll throw it out, but it doesn't change the fact that I'd like to examine your alibi in more detail this way.
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Post by Daedalus on Jan 20, 2015 13:41:09 GMT -8
"I am not offended in the slightest. I know you're wrong because I know where I was, but sadly as much as I wish that 'I know because I was there' was a valid confirmation of a person's alibi, it's not. However, I have yet to hear a good confirmation of Yuuji's alibi, and if we based our suspicions solely around who did not have a confirmed alibi, we would have to suspect quite a few. However, Yuuji, as I said, seems to be the only one with evidence pointing to him. It may be a red herring, it may not, but until we prove that it is a red herring we cannot assume that it is. So, if I must, I shall declare Yuuji to be the prime suspect."
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Post by The City [EclipseZwolf] on Jan 20, 2015 14:28:26 GMT -8
Just fixing the order of events Navarre.
I defeated Kiara Celeste leaped out a window Gunshot from the roof fled inside with Kiara met Yuuji Broke Sniper Rifle Stabbed Yuuji Got shot by shotgun went to hospital.
I would like to mention that I DID hear the gunshot from the roof even as Celeste was in the courtyard, so its more likely she heard that shot and wandered outside the school looking for me and got too far away to hear the shotgun shell fire.
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Post by V0ltage on Jan 20, 2015 16:37:53 GMT -8
I see. . .
Thanks for clearing things up for me then.
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Post by yaes on Jan 20, 2015 17:13:10 GMT -8
「To be more accurate, the shot was from the Observatory.」
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Post by Daiwa Scarlet on Jan 20, 2015 19:50:59 GMT -8
*Asebi tilts her head to the side* Umm... A random bit I had wanted to say... The syringe could have been the source of the soot within the hole itself if it has been covered with soot before. So Light could have been... injected away from the burning house.
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Post by The City [EclipseZwolf] on Jan 21, 2015 15:10:39 GMT -8
As much as I want to continue pushing for Yuuji as the culprit I would like to introduce another person as a possibility.
Celeste, you openly admitted to aiming to strike me after I had been "weakened" by Kiara. You didn't return inside the school obviously since you would have run into myself, Kiara, and Yuuji. So where did you go? Your testimony just ceases from the moment I vanished from your sight and based on times/testimonies this was a couple hours before the time of death. So, why do I suspect you?
Because you have a motive to go to my home. You were set on the possibility of striking down myself for some reason, but your target had vanished along with another. I imagine your train of thought involved tracking me down so you went to the place you suspected I would go to recover, my home. You had plenty of time at the school to get supplies for the murder and you are conveniently placed to toss suspicion on anyone else who entered the school that day. Unless you expect me to just believe you sit watch in a tree every day at school, you must have had some reason to set up watch, perhaps to decide on a person to blame for claiming the tools.
You had the tools and headed to my home where for some absurd reason you ran into Light the police chief. Perhaps you broke into my home and got into my room looking to attack me, granting you a moment to place the poison in my room. Ill guess you set up the fire to occur and either through that or breaking in the police chief Light Yagami was alerted and entered my home as well. Caught between a rock and a hard place you attacked Yagami and used the poison. I would guess at this point you immediately left my home and went to dispose of the syringe. At that point it was simply a matter of hiding and waiting for someone to discover the body.
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Post by Ravan on Jan 21, 2015 16:37:34 GMT -8
-Stocke takes some time to gather his thoughts-
Our list of suspects includes...
Light (Deceased) Yuuji (Alibi most likely exists, potential suspect otherwise) Adell (Probably wasn't intelligent enough to pull this off, Alibi most likely exists) Ayame (Voted innocent) Sayaka (Probably wasn't intelligent enough to pull this off, alibi most likely exists) Sova (Alibi most likely exists) The Viscount (Potential suspect) Stocke (Potential suspect to others) Yuma (No idea about this one) Mystio (Uncertain about this one) Asebi (Uncertain about this one) Arthur (Potential suspect) Celeste (Uncertain about this one)
Cause of death - Poison
State of the corpse - Soot stained clothing, not on the soles of his shoes. Indicates that he ran away. Small 2 mm hole in the nape of his neck. Hole appears to be discoloured, also has soot within, which indicates that the culprit must have stabbed him with the murder weapon (syringe filled with poison). Lack of bruising on the body, the body is covered in sweat.
Time of death - Approximately 4:45 PM. Poison administered at 4:40 PM.
Evidence found - Bottle of poison in the rubble of residence 2-1, syringe found in the garbage over at apartment 2-1, notes seemingly written by Yuuji and Light in Light's room in apartment 2-1 as well as one note in the trash of apartment 2-1.
Related crime - Arson of residence 2-1
Residence 2-1 was lit on fire at 4:30. The cause was short-circuiting appliances which led to sparks that lit things on fire. Most likely caused a blackout in residence 2-2. No major evidence from what I could understand.
Related crime - Theft of poison from the science lab at the school
Supposedly there was a broken lock which alerted people to the scene. Sova managed to get a teacher to provide a list of items there. A bottle of hazardous material was missing, most likely what Stocke found in the rubble of residence 2-1.
Why was Adell's house the one burnt down? Fortunately enough, his family was out, and he himself had suffered some rather significant wounds after a conflict with Yuuji. This would mean that the house was completely unoccupied. It's impossible to be certain at this point, as the evidence we have does not specifically point towards any person. At least, we could assume this.
Let us assume that this is how everything was planned out. Our culprit broke the lock to the science lab at the school and took the bottle of poison, and immediately vacated the premises. Afterwards, they took said bottle with them to their residence or some other hiding place. Perhaps they even kept it on their person. I digress.
Perhaps prior to this or afterwards, the culprit decided to obtain a syringe from the hospital. I went through every single examination room, and I found that the number of syringes were fine, so I assume that they must have taken the syringe on a previous day. This means that the culprit who took the poison didn't necessarily have to take it on that day after all.
The culprit must have also extensively investigated Adell beforehand in order to know when to use his house when it was unoccupied. The odds of them stumbling into his house and drawing Light there on the same day that he was severely injured as well as his entire family being out are astronomically low. That doesn't mean they're nonexistent, but for the sake of my theory, I will assume that this was not the case.
So our culprit knew the schedule of Adell, his current state as well as the position of his family. They also were familiar with Yuuji's handwriting as well as Light's handwriting in order to forge it. Normally, I would accuse one of the students, but I don't think anybody other than Ayame would have been intelligent enough to commit this crime, and as she was recently proven to be innocent, I'll have to give up on that trail of thought. Thus, I'm left with few suspects.
There were two pieces of evidence that struck me as interesting. Namely, the notes that were supposedly written by both Yuuji and Light. If we had assumed that they were written by their respective parties originally, then we would assume that Yuuji would have been the one to have ended Light. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but seeing his absolute confidence in the trial, I'm going to assume his alibi is foolproof.
Who could then analyse and attempt to forge Yuuji and Light's writing, then? Ayame has been proven to be innocent as of now, so for now I would like to discount her from the list of suspects grudgingly. I can only assume that our culprit has had access to documents that should be private. Thus, I would like to declare myself, The Viscount and Arthur Crozier as suspects, as well as anybody else who has access to documents that are available to government officials. Anybody that can access these documents is a suspect in my eyes. I have been to the police station myself and their records of individuals are extensive, so I can attest to their existence. Arthur Crozier was an officer last I checked, and our City Advisor definitely would have the authority to examine those documents as well.
In regards to how the murder actually went down, I imagine that our culprit had left a letter for Light in his apartment that called him out to Residence 2-1. They could have alternatively lured him there by promising something that interested him. Perhaps information on Yuuji that Light had missed out on. Perhaps cooperation with something else. This would explain why it took Light so long to leave before he was poisoned, he was initially assuming that the person he was meeting with was an ally rather than an enemy. When he noticed this, it was already too late for him.
Another possibility is that the culprit had knocked him out when he entered. At this point, they decided to set up the scene of the crime. They started the fire and began framing Light for the arson by staining him in soot. By the time he had woken up, the culprit decided to inject the poison and left. When Light came to, he was very confused and most likely disoriented when he noticed the fire and perhaps some excruciating pain.
Regardless of which scenario occurred, he fled the scene as quickly as his feet would take him, and that's how he ended up on Ingot Road. This is where he was found by Ayame later on, and she reported the corpse to the police posthaste. The possibility exists that the culprit had waited for Light to leave residence 2-1 and tailed him afterwards in order to perhaps take something from him. There is no evidence that he was searched, but there is no evidence that he wasn't searched either as far as I know. The possibility exists, at least. If the culprit did track him down afterwards to search the corpse, then they left immediately afterwards. At this point, Ayame found the corpse and reported it.
At this point in time, the culprit had a few things to deal with. They went and disposed of the syringe after cleaning it off, and they also had decided to plant the note along with it. What else they could have done is beyond me, perhaps you guys can think of that. This was a pretty complicated murder to think of.
... Well, that's about it from my part. Please, take a look and see if any of this strikes you as likely or unlikely. This is merely a theory, I hope it supports the rest of you in discovering who was behind this crime.
TL;DR - The Viscount, Stocke and Arthur are my current potential suspects. I would like to discount myself, but that's up to you people.
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Post by Daedalus on Jan 21, 2015 16:43:36 GMT -8
Ayame sits down, having gotten off the suspect podium. She sighs, listens to the others speak, and then proceeds to speak, her hands clasped calmly in her lap.
"Ladies and gentlemen, I had time to review the case file while I was up there, thankfully, and there was one point of note that Sova was absolutely correct about. The notes that I had found during the course of my investigation with Sayaka were indeed only near-perfect copies of their respective sets of handwriting. As I had trusted my initial analysis, I had assumed that there was no reason to suspect anyone other than Yuuji, no matter how much I personally wished it otherwise. It was where the facts pointed, so that was the point to turn to."
"However, now that the police analysis says that both notes are likely forgeries, I have had to look past my initial pride. So we must consider the question, who else among us would be able to do all of this? If we truly consider the question, here is what I have determined. There were forged notes. Both notes were forged, so we have to assume that they were both created for this frame job. This would require someone to have samples of both people's handwriting, as well as skills and experience necessary to complete the forgeries. No murderer was seen, either during the murder itself or the planting of the forged notes. That suggests someone highly skilled in the art of stealth. The victim for this crime was Light Yagami, an unstable police chief who willingly spilled secrets that he was sworn to keep, who publicly denounced Yuuji at the last trial, and who we know was currently under review by the other officials of this city. It seems that the intended victim in this case would actually be Adell, since it was in his house that the murder likely started. However, if a person were to both know Light Yagami's intended movements and had the skill to track them, it would be possible to follow Light and ambush him while he burned Adell's home to the ground."
"Now, why kill Light there? Simple. Then the murderer could be Yuuji, who had had evidence falsified against him, myself, who lived next door and would seem to some to be the type who would falsify such evidence, Adell, whose house it was, anyone who disliked Adell, and any student, if the bottle of poison was discovered, which it was. A shocking feat, considering the rubble around it. There is an absolute plethora of suspects. Yet, note who is not on that list."
"Stocke."
"A man who has had his identity as a secret agent under orders of the mayor exposed by the now-deceased Light Yagami. A man who is still likely very loyal to the mayor, who clearly did not approve of Light Yagami as a chief of police. A secret agent who would be trained in covert acts such as sneaking, tracking, and assassination. A man who might indeed know poisons, and who, despite not being a student, had been seen at the school by all the students there that day. A man who would know the movements and intentions of the chief of police through his contact with other city officials. A man whom it is quite easy to believe has skills in forgery and of shifting blame to other parties, as a result of secret agent training. A man who could easily know all sorts of secrets about the city, like routes to take to avoid being seen, and who would not be stopped under the assumption that he was under orders from the mayor. The man who found the poison in the rubble, likely requiring the skill of finding a needle in the haystack. Of course, if one remembers where one put the needle, it is quite easy."
"He says he is a suspect. I agree. What is more I would say he is now our prime suspect. Unless you have a foolproof alibi, Stocke, I accuse you of the murder of Light Yagami."
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Post by yaes on Jan 21, 2015 16:59:35 GMT -8
「This trial is now irrelevant, there is no need to continue with this farce.」
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Post by The Viscount on Jan 21, 2015 17:00:56 GMT -8
*The Viscount sighs.*
"Stocke... Has nothing that I said through this trial reached your brain? I think I must restate it again, once more, despite Ayame Tsukino's statement."
"Ahem. At the time of the murder, and, in fact, the time of the report on the television, I was in my office. Working. I barely know this Adell, and only because of the trials we have had. And, although he is quite annoying, I have no reason to frame Yuuji Ka... Whatever. In fact, I do not think I have access to a sample of his handwriting.Isn't that necessary to pull this off?"
"I already had plans to get Light Yagami within my grasp of power. Killing him would just halt my own plans. Plus, if I had killed him, I would not have used a needle, I'd have used a blade. I wouldn't have framed Yuuji Karrotkake, I would have framed you, Stocke."
"As for Arthur... He's a brave fool, but a fool nonetheless. He couldn't have pulled this off with that mind of his, plus, he knows that when he dies, I truly win. That risk is quite great, do you not think?"
"By process of elimination, then, it is either you, Stocke, or an unknown. And I'm in honest belief that it is you."
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Post by Ravan on Jan 21, 2015 17:04:18 GMT -8
An alibi is something that doesn't exist for me. It would be unbecoming of me if there were records of where I was for the pleasure of the public. But on the other hand, I must ask. What motive would I have to kill our police chief? If anything, we had worked together on a number of occasions. Simply because I did not approve of how he acted for someone of his stature, I would have no reason to kill him. Another thing is that if I had done this, I would not have left behind so many clues. It is as you say, I am a rather stealthy individual. But I have been hired by mayor Emna. He would not condone it if I had gone and committed murder right under his nose, nor would I want to. If you are accusing the mayor of wanting to dispose of the police chief, I'm afraid that you're going to have to provide more evidence than "it just seems likely because nothing points towards him". Anybody could have found the bottle that I found had they searched for enough time. If you're going to bring up finding a needle in the haystack, the same applied to you when you investigated with Sayaka as you directed her efforts. I trusted that you merely found things in the same way that I did, through persistence and intuition.
I'm somewhat disappointed in you. You're more intelligent than this. Whatever happened to evidence?
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Post by The Viscount on Jan 21, 2015 17:29:00 GMT -8
"Allow me to pitch a couple more arguments in."
"Now, I do not believe Stocke the type to kill someone, it is true. Remember the time you attacked me, Agent? If I recall, you attacked me with the blunt end of the blade. Even though you dislike me so. And then, you did not attack me again."
"I think Yuma too... Incompetent to pull this off. And, for Mystio, she's... A special case, and given some rumors, I doubt she'd resort to poison. However, we - or at least I, don't know too much about two of our resident students here. Asebi Whateverthehell, and Celestia Ludenburg."
"Can some of you people give us more information about these two?"
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