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Post by yaes on Jan 19, 2015 15:33:57 GMT -8
「Well, it doesn't matter to me either way. You're welcome to assume that if you want.」
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Post by Satori on Jan 19, 2015 15:53:07 GMT -8
Good day to you all. Celestia Lundenberg here and I may have some valuable information that might help solve this case. It was mentioned here that a bottle of "hazardous material" was found in Adell's burned down house and a syringe found in a trashcan near Apartment 2-1 which are believed to have come from the school's science lab and nurse's office am I right? If that were the case then it could only mean that whoever burned down Adell's house and perhaps even committed the murder would have gone to the school that day. And I happen to know almost every person that went to the school that day. How do I know this? Well allow me state my testimony. On the morning that day, I was sitting on a tree in the school's courtyard and witnessed some interesting things... First. I saw Sova Underskirt pass through the courtyard and into school then back out. Then I saw Sayaka having tennis practice with Kiara. Adell then came in and and was watching Kiara practicing. Around that same time, I suddenly saw Yuuji jump into the courtyard onto the roof of the school followed by Light who had a force of around 20 cops and he was probably pursuing Yuuji. Both left the scene shortly afterwards. Kiara then entered the school followed by Adell. Having said this. I can confirm that Sova, Sayaka, Adell, Kiara had gone to the school that day though Yuuji and Light never actually entered the school. I can also confirm that Asebi was also at the school that day though I never actually saw her pass by the courtyard. Now. While most people are suspicious of Yuuji since he was being pursued by Light that day, I don't think he committed the crime since he never entered the school as I stated earlier and thus couldn't have gotten the bottle of hazardous material and the syringe. I also don't believe Sayaka, Adell, Kiara and Asebi could have committed the crime which just leaves only one person who went to the school and could have gotten the syringe and bottle... Sova Underskirt...I call upon you to testify! Would you mind telling us what you were doing that day?
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Post by Monika on Jan 19, 2015 15:53:08 GMT -8
I, the Thraxinator, have discovered some important information.
Through my... special methods, I have concluded that...
The perp... is probably in Avrak City.
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Post by The City [EclipseZwolf] on Jan 19, 2015 16:05:28 GMT -8
Yuuji was never in the school? Hold a moment. Let me describe what happened after I went into the school with Kiara and why you can't necessarily be trusted either.
First I entered the school with Kiara, I spoke with her there myself. In fact you walked in on our conversation did you not Celeste? At that time I challenged her to a fight and we agreed to fight in the courtyard. During this time you would have been unable to check who came in and out the school.
In the courtyard I fought Kiara. Part way through the fight Kiara vanished into the school and I saw, through a window, you getting kicked in the face by Kiara, Celeste. When she returned she mentioned that someone had looked like they were about to interfere. That would be you since she attacked you.
You were probably out cold at this point and again would be unable to monitor events. My fight with Kiara continued until I landed a good hit and knocked them unconscious.
That was when things got hectic. Celeste, you jumped out of a window into the courtyard and a gun sounded. I was so overwhelmed by the events I had to take a short... pause.... lets say to consider my actions. Which involved evading a sniper round and carrying Kiara into the school.
At the time I hadn't considered specifically the trajectory of the bullet as I was busy moving Kiara. Once inside I thought about it and recognized it had come from the rooftop of the school. Here we prove Yuuji was indeed inside the school, he entered the hallway where I stood carrying a duffel bag and without a word drew out a sniper and leveled it at me.
Needless to say we fought. It ended when I dealt him a knife wound that, at the time, I believed had killed him and as he fell he shot me with a shotgun. There should be copious amounts of blood in the school to assist that story. At that time I used a... technique... I had picked up from Kiara to keep myself alive while traveling to the hospital.
You were acting quite suspicious as well Celeste and your testimony for witnesses going into the school holds absolutely no water since obviously people could have gotten in and out, even with you on watch.
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Post by yaes on Jan 19, 2015 16:11:41 GMT -8
「Some of that is inaccurate, I wasn't on the roof of the school, nor did I enter the hallway.」
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Post by The City [EclipseZwolf] on Jan 19, 2015 16:14:45 GMT -8
I call BS
If not then give your side of the story
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Post by Satori on Jan 19, 2015 17:22:58 GMT -8
I was watching from on top of a tree in the courtyard and I came down after I saw you and Kiara enter the school though I agree that I couldn't have seen anyone else enter the school around the time of the fight.
And yes. I was watching you two fighting from the classroom and I was rudely super kicked by Kiara who just appeared in the room out of nowhere. After the fight ended, I did intend to knock you down while you were weakened but then you suddenly disappeared along with Kiara using your so called "techniques".
Ah yes. Yuuji could have gone to the school while I wasn't watching although he did indeed jump onto the school roof then got back down and fled the scene and he probably could have came back to the school when I wasn't watching from the courtyard that time. Strangely though, I didn't hear any gunshots coming from outside.
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Post by John Dark Souls on Jan 19, 2015 17:51:32 GMT -8
『Okay, I have a lot to say to this sorry sight, so I will go through things 1 at a time. First of all, let me tell you how I deducted the murder happened from the end to the beginning.』
『The victim of this case, Light Yagami was found dead on the Ingot Road. But, this doesn't mean that he was murdered there on spot. Why? Because of how he was murdered. Light Yagami had a small 2mm wide almost perfectly round hole in his neck that could've only be dealt by a needle of sorts. Of course, it was no normal sewing needle. It was a needle from a syringe that was used to inject poison into Light's neck. Everything already mentioned by everyone as well as discolored skin at the wound points to this. Light Yagami was poisoned. And poisons aren't something that instantly kill their target, different poisons have different timers but I think the smallest time in which it'll take for poison to kill someone after being injected into neck where blood circulation is best is few minutes. Thus after Light was injected somewhere else, he could've moved to Ingot Road on his own feet to die there. And thus while corpse was indeed in Ingot Road, the murder itself happened elsewhere. And I will now prove why it is so.』
『Now that I mentioned that he got attacked and finished not on Ingot Road, the next question is: "Then where?" If you got the look on the corpse, you could've noted just like Stocke did that Light was covered in soot. And not just a bit of soot. His hair, his clothes, his skin, every part of Light Yagami's body was covered in soot except for the sole of his shoes. Soot comes from fire. Now where do you find that much fire? In a burning building of course. This would also explain while he was drenched in sweat. In burning building, anybody would sweat from the heat. It is without doubt that Light Yagami was inside Residence 2-1 when fire took place. But, why do I think that is where he was attacked by the culprit? Because even the small hole from the syringe was covered in a bit of soot. That means that more soot managed to get on his wounded neck before he escaped out of the building and got to Ingot Road. Thus, this makes it clear that Light Yagami was attacked inside or at the very least very close to Residence 2-1 before he left it.』
『Now lets try connect these 2 points. Why did Light Yagami who was attacked died on Ingot Road? The answer is simple. He ran away. Whether it was because attacker was of completely other level than him or he didn't want to be seen by anyone else or he simply got scared for his life or any other reason, I don't know. But anyway, he ran away with tail between his legs. He ran all the way to the Ingot Road where the poison finally got to him and he dropped dead. Now why did he choose that route? Simple, I think some of you should remember that during previous trial it got clear that Light Yagami lived in Apartment 3-1? I particularly noticed that fact because that is same apartment I live in. And thus I myself know, that going through Ingot Road is the fastest way to get to 5th Street where apartment is from the City Square. And there you have it, Light Yagami ran from 3rd Street where Residence 2-1 was to Ingot Road because he was running to his home. The direction in which Light Yagami's body was pointed is a proof of that. His forward was pointed at 5th Street while back was pointed at City Square. Few may question why he ran to his apartment instead of Police Station that was even closer from City Square. I questioned this myself seeing as it is more logical to run to your allies when attacked by someone to at least report their name at the very least. But what if he had something he wanted to hide from other police officers?』
『Upon examining the rubble of the residence 2-1, I found that soot there was of much lighter color than soot on Light Yagami's body that was much darker. If any of you has some general knowledge on soot, you would know that flammable substances like charcoal and such produce slightly darker soot than normal wood like the materials of the residence 2-1. So, it means that Light Yagami was there near the substance that was likely used to set house on fire when it started burning. But what role did Light Yagami play in the arson? Was he the one who started it? Or he miraculously happened upon the sight of somebody doing it and ran in to stop them? I will declare that it is first. Why? 3 main reasons: First. As I mentioned before, Light Yagami was fully covered in soot except for soles of his shoes. That also includes both of his palms. If he merely happened upon the sight of the crime, I imagine he will immediately take out his rapier and attempt to apprehend the culprit, thus the palm gripping rapier wouldn't have been covered in soot. I must also add that rapier was also covered in soot so there are no doubts that it was taken out at some point during fire. Second. Because of his escape route. If he happened upon the person who was setting a house on fire and was attacked by that person even, he would without doubt run towards Police Station to request help. But he didn't. Could it be because he was the culprit behind the arson and his soot-covered body was pointing towards that and he didn't want police officers to find out? I do think so myself. And third. It is the smallest reason but I still think it is worth taking in consideration. Few days ago, while I was passing through City Square, Light Yagami suddenly jumped out from around the corner and sprinted at me with his insane glow in his eyes. He kicked my leg to which I replied by casually punching his face and knocking him out with it. Afterwards I checked his pockets to see if he had anything of worth and noticed that he had his journal, a pen, a pocket knife and finally, a lighter. I don't know if it was what he used for setting residence 2-1 on fire but it is still worth of note.』
『But what of his reason for it you would say? I honestly don't know. Does an insane police chief who part-time works as reporter to put dirt on people's names with false facts that throws threats left and right, runs around with knife and randomly attacks people, randomly sends dozens of honest police officers to chase after random individuals, randomly raids markets with them before escaping alone by himself even need a reason to set a house on fire? I don't think so. You shouldn't too. Judging from what everyone said, I won't be surprised if it is even something as outrageous as mistaking apartment 2-1 for residence 2-1 and setting it on fire instead...』
『Anyhow, with that out of the way, it is time to get back to murderer. During investigation around the residence 2-1 I happened to do a break and discuss with Stocke what we have found that far. He mentioned to me that a bottle labeled "hazardous material" was found in the rabble. Having visited Science Lab before, I knew that it had a cabinet labeled hazardous materials that had numerous dangerous reagents. So after that, I went to the Science Lab and convinced a teacher to give me the list of what chemicals were kept that. After checking through the current contents, I confirmed that a poisonous chemical that was on the list, wasn't in the cabinet. Thus there are no doubts that the murder weapon of this case is the poisonous chemical taken from the school Science Lab and administered with syringe or something of sorts.』
『Now to reply to your silly argument Celestia Ludenberg. I won't even start talking on how it is incredibly suspicious why you would even think of sitting on a tree for whole day looking at courtyard, on how your word alone doesn't hold any meaning unless there is any proof, on how you would need to keep your eyes open for every single second of today and not miss any little detail to know who exactly went in and out of school, on how there are ways to get past you without being "seen" or any other ways of "getting inside and outside". Instead, I would say just what matters most. While it is true that syringe and poisonous chemicals were taken from school, yes. It doesn't mean in any way that they had to be taken today. They could be taken any single day beforehand by any single person in here. There is no proof that the chemicals or syringe were in the Nurse Room or Science Lab until today. Thus even if what you say is true, it isn't necessarily connected to current case. Seeing as the culrpit was careful enough to obtain poison, only inject it and wait for it to do the rest, I won't be any bit surprised if they were prepared for this murder from long ago. It won't even surprise me if whole school blowing up and lock on the hazardous materials cabinet being fixed was just a cover-up for them to mask disappearance of the poisonous chemical. (P.S.This might be based on my misunderstanding and I will change if C corrects me. When I examined broken lock, C said that it was broken before school got repaired after explosion and it is fixed now and it was just him not editing the thread.)』
『But, what could point at the true culprit then you ask? Things that have been mentioned by certain somebody in the trial I reply. Ayame mentioned that she saw Light Yagami leave the 2-1 residence running away and said that she chased him down until he was found dead, she also mentioned seeing him running in and out apartment 2-1 beforehand too. Thus it makes one think that she was always watching. Thus she should've been able to see the culprit who went after Light Yagami into residence 2-1 to attack him few moments before ran out. Not to mention that if she ran out after him immediately she should've noticed the culprit run out of burning house as well. And if culprit stayed in the residence 2-1 they would've likely been burned by fire if they didn't escape too. I would also mention that there might've been a reason for the culprit to approach the corpse first before finishing it off so the chances of culprit and Ayame encountering each other would've been more than simply high. Thus either the culprit had a way to remain unseen or the culprit was Ayame herself. I would consider 2nd to be more likely.』
『Why? Ayame has done many "I am innocent appeals." First of them being announcing the murder while mentioning her own name. Second, going to investigate together with someone. While talking about her investigation with Sayaka she also only mentioned either "we" or "Sayaka" found something. It really made me feel like she herself wasn't even looking. Now tell me Sayaka. Was it Ayame who invited you to go investigating together?』
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Post by Arie Camillia on Jan 19, 2015 18:12:43 GMT -8
Umm... yeah. Ayame did ask for us to team up if I remember correctly.
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Post by Daedalus on Jan 19, 2015 18:39:54 GMT -8
Ayame was about to speak, but after the long speech given by Sova, she smiles.
"I am glad you noted that the disappearance of the 'hazardous material' could very well have occurred before the explosion. And I agree with you, it's quite possible that the explosion was actually caused to cover up the theft. I've never quite believed that Mr. Katsuragi blew it up, but, if we assume that the explosion happened to cover up someone taking the materials, who would be most equipped to perform such a violent act? I suggest that it would be Yuuji. If we take everything here into account, he is the one most likely, considering his propensity to have weapons. He has had a shotgun, is suspected of having a sniper rifle, and the deceased himself accused him of smuggling weapons. If anyone would have a way to blow up a building, it would be Yuuji."
"Now, let's look at your scenario for the death itself. I was not 'always watching,' as you put it. In fact, I live in the other home on that street. I couldn't help but see Light, considering he was on the street where I live, and happened to be standing around outside the apartment, looking like he was waiting for someone. I did not see the person who attacked him, likely because it took me some time to get from my second floor window down to the street, and if the culprit was fast enough to get to Light, they would certainly have been fast enough to get to Bright Street before I could have gotten out my door. What is more, they could easily have had time to get to Light's body to finish him off or do whatever they needed to do. I was not proceeding that quickly, as I had to follow his trail rather than follow him directly, and it took a bit of time to track."
"And speaking of tracks, since you seem to believe that I was not looking at all, Sayaka will vouch for the fact that I was the one that found the trail away from the body that eventually led back to the apartment where we found the syringe, I was the one who explained to her that a needle likely meant poison, I was the one who found out that the door to Light's apartment had scratch marks on the keyhole, like it had been picked, and I was the one who talked to the receptionists. For the record, neither one saw anyone suspicious during the time of the death. Which actually, to me, suggests that it was indeed perpetrated by one who could hide themselves. I'm sure we could call them in to confirm that. I was simply quite proud of Sayaka's progress as an investigator during this case. She was doubtful of her abilities at the beginning, and I wanted to tutor her."
She looks at Sayaka and shrugs, with a smile.
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Post by Ravan on Jan 19, 2015 19:02:50 GMT -8
In regards to Yuuji being the most capable of blowing up the building, I would like to disagree. We've only seen him with regular firearms, sniper rifles nor shotguns have the power to take down a building. Had he attempted to destroy the building with a rocket launcher or something akin to that, he would have most likely blown himself up along with it unless he felt like standing outside in the open with such a weapon.
If anything, I'm fairly certain the culprit must have matched Light in terms of speed. In fact, I'd assume they were incredibly fast seeing as they were capable of catching up to him, injecting the syringe into the nape of his neck, and then fleeing the scene after removing the syringe, finishing up with anything else they had in mind, and disposing of the syringe afterwards. How many people do we know of that reside in Apartment 2-1? Was the syringe found in the trash there meant to frame people in there, Yuuji in particular? Or was the culprit merely careless?
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Post by John Dark Souls on Jan 19, 2015 19:10:30 GMT -8
『Well then good job "finding" and pointing what you could've already known if you were a culprit easily as well as bunch of stuff that could as well be unrelated to the case. I am 90% sure that Light Yagami's Apartment as well as the notes found under his bed and in the trash can are unrelated to the case. Why so? Because of relationship between Light Yagami and Yuuji Kazami. As you could've seen, it wasn't something that started just now and something that has been going on from before even previous trial. It has likely happened in this way: after investigating Yuuji Kazami to certain extend, Light Yagami found he lived in apartment 2-1, thinking he found where he lived, Light Yagami left a not on Yuuji Kazami's apartment's door or something like that, when Yuuji Kazami found it, he took the note and threw it into the trash can, but, it wasn't enough for him, thus he investigated where Light Yugami lived, broken into his apartment and left the note with his address under his bed saying "I know where you live too and I can even get inside.".』
『Why do I think this couldn't have become a motive for Yuuji Kazami to murder Light Yagami? It is simply because I think there is no way Yuuji Kazami could've done the murder. There are 2 main reasons for that: 1.As you could've heard from Adell's story, he himself clashed with Yuuji Kazami and it was even a surprise that he lived at all to him. He wasn't in condition to return back all okay and start fight with Light Yagami making Light Yagami run for his life in fear. Adell mentions that he stabbed Yuuji Kazami with a knife. So unless he was able to miraculously recover from it, he should've still been wounded and not feared by Light Yagami or maybe left blood trail of sorts at the murder sight. 2.After investigating Police Station, I asked policemen there whether they received any special orders from police chief Light Yagami to which they replied they were ordered to chase around a certain individual. Celes also mentions witnessing 2 dozens of policemen doing exactly what they have been ordered to, chasing Yuuji Kazami. I don't think that while being under search from 2 dozens of policemen and having many wounds you would be able to sneakily return to your apartments, murder another person and without getting seen by Ayame going out escape. Why do I think so? I was in the same boat last trial.』
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Post by yaes on Jan 19, 2015 19:32:41 GMT -8
「Seeing as people keep getting caught up on what are "red herrings". I will go ahead and say that besides Light chasing me around the city with 50 cops, I have had no contact with him whatsoever since the last trial. That note planted is not mine. However, I can tell you for sure that Light does not know where I live, for multiple reasons. Both the fire, and the notes have zero relevancy to the murder, so I suggest you begin elsewhere.」
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Post by The City [EclipseZwolf] on Jan 19, 2015 19:46:16 GMT -8
So presumably you know the cause of the fire since it has no relation to the case.
Mind sharing?
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Post by Daedalus on Jan 19, 2015 19:47:40 GMT -8
Ayame shrugs again. "I have seen some strange sights lately. Indeed, Mr. Kuatsuragi, the very day before he killed four police officers, I witnessed getting bashed on the back of the head so hard as to render him instantly unconscious, and then he was left with some rather unsavory characters which I could only assume treated him even worse. Yet, less than 24 hours later, he was perfectly fine and well enough to kill 4 healthy and strong officers with ease. If it was two weeks ago, I would accept that a knife wound would indeed clear him of suspicion. In these times, I only will accept a solid alibi to be an alibi. A trustworthy source of information like one of us knowing exactly where he was."
"Furthermore, despite the orders you claim the police received, while I was tracking Mr. Yagami to what turned out to be his death scene, I did not see any police. If I did not, then I can't imagine that the perpetrator would have had any issues, especially if they were skilled enough to slip into the lobby unnoticed."
"I would be willing to bet that at least the note found with the syringe in Apartment 2-1 is related to the trial, considering it was found with the syringe. I will cede that the note in Light's apartment may not be, though. Perhaps it was what made Light so angry in the first place."
"I do appreciate you bringing up the idea of motive, though. Who had motive? Yuuji's and Mr. Yagami's struggles are well-documented. Perhaps the strongest rivalry Light had with anyone, including everything from threats to sue to sending cops after Yuuji and accusing him of weapons smuggling. Indeed, many people did not like Mr. Yagami's policies as police chief. Yet, and I only do this since you seem intent on blaming me for these crimes, I never once have conflicted with any police, and the only reason Mr. Yagami and I ever came into conflict was due to that trial, where I was simply following the evidence of the time. I was not the only one convinced of his guilt. As much as I dislike the idea for...personal reasons...I have found no evidence to contradict the conclusion that Yuuji is the one with the most motive, a clean opportunity, and hard evidence pointing to him. You say the notes are not yours? Provide us with a sample of your handwriting. You say that Light was not waiting for you when he was hanging around Apartment 2-1? Then who was he waiting for? We have a receptionist who would testify that he was there, for hours, waiting."
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