Spiritual Successor to Blood Shift Poll

[The City [EclipseZwolf]]

Hello everybody
I wanted to make this thread to again gauge interest in a season similar to Blood Shift with the repeated revivals system. I just finished a Back Story for this new season in a format similar to the "Story of Blood and A Promise" for Blood Shift. As such I have yet to put together any kind of map or all the rules. Here I will explain the basic concept of the game and then see if people are interested. If enough people are interested I will again make an official Application to host the season. If responses all tend to be really mixed then I will rework the season according to any comments you guys leave. If you guys all say no then please elaborate on why in a post below so I don't get depressed. I am considering allowing someone else to mastermind the season if they wish. I will provide the content and someone else ends up hosting the finished product. If you guys are alright with that or would rather have me masterminding it then please make a post telling me here. 

I was told that you guys would prefer me to mastermind it and that has been unanimous, so I will definitely be the mastermind.

Without Further Ado let me present to you the spiritual successor to Season Blood~Shift(This season occurs in the Blood Shift Universe, where on the timeline is for you guys to figure out.)

Season AA(SAA, SA2)
The AA obviously stands for some plot related stuff, but the name is not quite finalized yet so that will be kept a secret for now.

SAA will occur in a strange fort that seems to have fallen straight out of a fairy tale. The fort is large and will consist of many rooms made in a similar format to Blood Shift rooms. There will be no rotating doorways or changing of pathways like in Blood Shift though. The exact size of the map is yet to be determined.

The Concept of this game, like Blood Shift, is that revivals are commonplace. I will revive all players based on in game events, occurrences, or even my own whims. There will be a system in place similar to Blood Punishments to force players to worry about death in that they will not just escape scott-free for dying. The exact name of this system is TBD.

The catch of this season is going to be that "someone" has ONLY ONE life to live. If this person dies then it closes off one of the main routes to victory. This WILL be one of the players.
On the reverse side of this, "someone's" only goal is to wipe the person who has one life to live off the map. This WILL be one of the players.
Nobody but the mastermind will know who has one life to live and who wants to kill them. NOT EVEN THE TWO PLAYERS WILL KNOW.
The Mastermind can and will be murdering you for pleasure, HOWEVER, the mastermind will NEVER take the one life of the player who only has one.

There will be motives for people to kill each other ignoring the previous rules, but don't go expecting the True End or the Evil End if you ignore the ones above.

The next change is to trials and arguing about the main plot. I am removing the Verbal Bullet System in its entirety as it tends to give everyone tunnel vision about what is important and bullets tend to condemn people without anyone actually putting together what happened. As such I have a new system in place to replace verbal bullets.

(This idea was inspired by Umineko, which I read in preparation for Air's Season. I really want some feedback on this so please tell me what you think.)
Season AA's arguments will revolve around two things. The Red Truth and the Blue Theory. When a player presents a theory about what they think occurred or are making a conjecture or assumption, it MUST be in Blue. When a player presents an undeniable fact, it MUST be in Red. If a Red Truth is acceptable then it is completely undeniable, similar to verbal bullets. You must theorize with Blue and counter Blue Theories with Red Truths. The catch is that I won't tell you whether a fact can be considered a Red Truth. You will have to use your own logic to determine what undeniable fact negates a Blue Theory. If you post something as a Red Truth that turns out to be false then I will attack the person who made the incorrect assumption. This won't result in the player's death the first time, but I will eventually kill players who fail the Red truth too often.

Here is an Example of Blue Theory and Red Truth:
Player A Posts: "Eclipse killed Alice!"
Player B Posts: "Wrong, Eclipse has an Alibi for the Time of Death!"
A player proposes a theory and/or claim, but with the absolute Red truth that Eclipse has an alibi means the Theory must be false.

If someone tries to make a Red Truth that directly implies the killer and/or something that you are simply trying to weed info out of the mastermind based on if I deny it, then I will Kill the player who used the Red Truth and I will not revive them for a time. Regardless of the truth or falsity of the Red Truth, "Eclipse is the Killer!" is not an acceptable statement and I will punish people attempting to abuse the system for freebie information.

If it turns out that either Blue or Red Truths are being used in excess then I will split times and force players to only use one of the two during specific times.

Applications require a 
Name
Character Image(optional)
SHSL Title
What Killed You?*
Character personality(A paragraph or a quote describing your character is satisfactory for this. I just need a basic understanding of what kind of person you are playing as.)

*What Killed You: This is a unique addition to this Season and while I haven't made something akin to blood weapons for this season yet, this is the next special thing. In this section please tell me how your character took a fatal injury. It cannot be instant death as your body must make it to the hospital or I have plot holes. Examples include: Hit by a car/truck/train, Attacked by a rabid Cat/Dog/Rabbit/etc., Mugged by Thraxinator, and whatever else your can come up with your imaginations.


There is obviously a whole lot more I want to work out about the Season, but as of now these are the major points I wanted to hit. If you guys have a stance then please vote in the poll. If you have suggestions or comments please post below so that I may make edits where I need to or adjust things based on player response.

[Yuni Shingyouji]

I love it completely, only one concern.

How does the murderer go about deceiving with the red fact system?

[The City [EclipseZwolf]]

In response to that question, the red fact system is loose in that the players must find and create the Red Truths, I won't hand them out like verbal Bullets,

As such if a culprit plants an item like a key or something that ties to the crime on another player, they may use that item as a red truth.

EX:
Player A Posts: "The suspects are Eclipse and Alice!"
Player B Posts: "Wrong, the key to the room of the crime was in Mystio's Room. Therefore we must include Mystio as a suspect."

This way criminals are able to push their own planted evidence and they are not plain out ignored because it is not a verbal bullet. Then if someone still wishes to argue with not including Mystio as a suspect, then you can present a blue theory involving Mystio as the criminal. This means that the other players not only have to find evidence that points at the true culprit, they must find Alibis for anyone else involved.

As a side note: It is not required to use the blue or red truths when you post, so you can just lie in plain text if you so desire. Nobody would blame someone for being very careful with the red truth due to the fact that the Mastermind will attack the player if they do it incorrectly.

P.S. You cannot say "I am not the Murderer" in red like this. If you want to prove you are not the murderer then you must have a red truth Alibi for the correct time of death. Like other things that abuse how I respond to learn free information, I will kill you immediately if I see this. This goes for both The murderer and the innocent. Nobody is allowed to say that in red.

[Aoba Seragaki]

I like the concept a lot, particularly the red truths and blue theories (even if they to knock out two of my characters due to being the color of their chats aaaaaa).
It keeps the concept of verbal bullets alive without making some people (*coughvickycoughseacough*) OP due to being ungodly thorough while searching.

Personally I feel like with you coming up with everything it would work best if you hosted the season, but if you don't I understand.
Dual mastermind also works ' ^'

[King V]

I think the main problem with the red truth system is that people can lie about or misinterpret evidence. The purpose of the verbal bullet system was to clarify and demystify all of the deception in the trials. While the red/blue truth system has more flexibility, it also leaves a lot of room for players to misinterpret things and for trials to go astray.

On another note, I'm still not sure if reviving players is a good idea or not. It does give players more chances to play the game, but it also gives people a superficial view of death and makes murdering people become less consequential in the player's eyes.

That said, I do like the red truth/blue theory system. I will personally be sticking with verbal bullets (they'll be getting reworked), but I'd like to see how the new system works out.

[The City [EclipseZwolf]]

I intend for trials to go much more astray, because there exist so many more possibilities it will encourage lots of discussion and theories being bounced back and forth instead of slowly building up on the one true event.

My hope with the revival system is that people don't get blind sided by a murder or something ridiculous and lose out the chance to participate. The way I see people needing to be careful is that one person has only one life(YOLO Mode). The person who is yoloing will NOT BE INFORMED. As such all players will have to consider the possibility that their first life is also their last.

[Deleted]

I really like the idea behind this season, because as you mentioned, I enjoy it a-lot more when there's discussions and theories just bouncing around, as it is much closer to what would happen in real life.

The concept behind the Red/Blue system is very interesting. I found Verbal Bullets to be a bad inclusion to the games and it really just felt like a chase to get bullets and fire them all instead of investigating stuff and using your brain to put the pieces together.

With the Blue theory and Red truth system, it will still be possible to keep the discussion alive and headed towards the right path instead of getting stuck or lost as it would happen before.

Overall I'd be really happy to play this season as I very much enjoyed your last one, and while I would prefer you being the mastermind of it, I can understand if you would want to leave it in the hands of someone else.

[Yuni Shingyouji]

Apr 7, 2014 23:13:14 GMT -8 The City [EclipseZwolf] said:

I am considering allowing someone else to mastermind the season if they wish. I will provide the content and someone else ends up hosting the finished product. If you guys are alright with that or would rather have me masterminding it then please make a post telling me here.

My next concern is this. I would greatly appreciate you masterminding your series, as I personally feel that each person has a unique mastermind method that fits well with their series and themes. I personally really enjoy your themes, just as I enjoy Airs and Seas, and would not like these seasons to loose their taste if possible.

Apr 7, 2014 23:13:14 GMT -8 The City [EclipseZwolf] said:

Mugged by Thraxinator

This made me laugh.

[The City [EclipseZwolf]]

Alright so the feedback says I am the mastermind, So I will be masterminding if the season occurs.