Milestone Achievements Discussion

[The City [EclipseZwolf]]

Milestone Achievements

This thread is for expanded discussion on a Milestone achievement system for future MMG games. Essentially there would be site-wide declared milestones for doing certain things a set number of times and once you reach those you are awarded a trophy. This would be to provide players incentives to follow multiple paths in various MMG games instead of just the one the one that leads to the hosts trophy.

As I see it there several potential milestones we can track for players. I think it is fun to name them after Arcanas. As a note I see each of these effectively being one trophy per milestone. So even if you have hosted 10 games, you don't have four different trophies under The World Milestone, and instead just have the highest tier trophy.

Masterminds: The World Milestones: Milestones for how many games someone has hosted.
Tiers: 1 Game, 2 Games, 3 Games, and 5 Games. Raises fairly quickly as hosting a game is no simple or quick task.

Murderers: The Devil Milestones: Milestones for the number of times the person has been a murderer, whether they got away with it or not.
Tiers: 1, 3, 5, 10. Goes fairly high since it does not require someone to be successful and a person could reasonably raise this by one every game.

Victims: The Hanged Man Milestones: Milestones for the number of times the person has been killed.
Tiers: 1, 3, 5, 10. Goes fairly high since this doesn't require almost any effort on the person involved.

Murder Getaways: The Magician Milestones: Milestones for the number of times a person is the murderer AND gets away with it.
Tiers: 1, 2, 3, 4. New trophy for each success as this is going to be very difficult in most cases.

Survivors: The Hierophant Milestones: Milestones for the number of times a person reaches the end of a season alive.
Tiers: 1, 3, 5, 7. Raises at average speed as this isn't horrendously difficult, but isn't a guarantee each game.

Detectives: Judgement Milestones: Milestones for participating in trials and successfully pinning the culprit
Tiers: 10, 20, 30, 40. Can happen upwards of 5 times per any one game so it raises slowly.

[Chatt]

10/10 idea. Full support. Out of curiosity would this be retroactive? Or only apply to games from now on?

[The City [EclipseZwolf]]

Personally I would do it retroactively on a per request basis AND there is the potential that certain data has been lost. Like who survived the seasons that didn't happen on Proboards would be more difficult information for me to go get. S2.5 is probably a great example since the contents of the forum we used at the time were being purged due to a site wide post limit. I know everyone died at the end and some of the silly moments, but I don't recall who killed whom at what points.

Plus we have had to purge some season boards due to the 1000 board limit set by Proboards(which they turned on after we had like 1100 boards so that was awkward).

So if someone asked and was willing to help me find the information I would do it retroactively for them as best as I could. Though after doing it a few times I may adjust the milestone requirements in the event that we have everyone claiming to have been part of like 100 correct trials or some nonsense.

The work required for me or anyone to go get EVERYONE up to date would just be too much.

[King V]

Might be an unpopular opinion, but I think it might just be a waste of space. We had something at one point like a Player of the Month trophy, but in reality most people just phase in and out of the site based on when games are happening, so we might have 2 months of super high activity during a game, then 2 months of completely inactivity when there aren't games happening. The games are what most people are interested in, so trophies that exist outside of the games don't seem to garner much attention.

[Chatt]

I'm confused by your statement, Sea. These trophies relate to in game stuff don't they? And they encourage certain actions, as well as encouraging people to take actions they wouldn't do otherwise.

[The City [EclipseZwolf]]

Player of the Month was stupid for the reasons you said C. We had months where literally nothing happened so there was no good way to hand it out. Same with the other Of the Month trophies.

I do think Milestones link more into games than the Player of the Month thing did. Potentially we boil it down to 3-5 categories and we have a leaderboard thread to keep track of em. Then at most everyone has 3-5 of these milestone trophies plus the unique ones dropped by hosts. It would certainly cause a spike in how many trophies people have, but I believe it would taper off and normalize again after people climb up to the couple of milestones they are focusing on. At that point we would just get getting unique ones taking up new space and the old milestones being replaced by higher tiers as they are earned.

Maybe we just make the trophies REALLY hard to get, like only at the higher tiers and the only tiers are only for bragging rights?