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Post by Naru on Apr 23, 2017 8:22:54 GMT -8
" if it was an accident wouldn't the sentry gun be randomly shooting at us all?I saw that it was aimed at him, g-god we all did!This means it is no accident
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Post by John Dark Souls on Apr 23, 2017 8:25:58 GMT -8
"Hmmmmmm... Didn't that sentry gun machine fire randomly at Finire person after it fired at winged person? Was it an attempted second murder?"
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Post by The City [EclipseZwolf] on Apr 23, 2017 8:38:31 GMT -8
"Well, I honestly believe that Hiro standing there was an accident. I wanted to surprise him since he hadn't seen his wings yet. Someone else must have triggered the gun to fire during that moment of opportunity!"
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Post by Naru on Apr 23, 2017 8:42:37 GMT -8
"Didn't you asked for volunteer? I heard you s-saying that..to show us how over Stein Weapon work.
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Post by The City [EclipseZwolf] on Apr 23, 2017 8:49:21 GMT -8
"Well yeah, It just so happened that my desire to surprise Hiro and his willingness to volunteer coincided. That is all. I had absolutely no ulterior motive whatsoever."
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Post by Daiwa Scarlet on Apr 23, 2017 16:11:21 GMT -8
"Wasn't there a clicking sound during both occasions? Maybe that had something to do with the gun going off."
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Post by John Dark Souls on Apr 24, 2017 0:28:48 GMT -8
"I don't think I understand what you keep talking about but isn't it like this? If that sentry gun isn't human, then it must be an animal kept by Finire. Then, if it is what killed winged person, hit's owner Finire person takes full responsibility for it's actions, right?"
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Post by Naru on Apr 24, 2017 16:23:54 GMT -8
"Its a machine, and yeah, because I d-don't think as a owner t-they w-would leave a tr-trigger lying around.Right?" Marrion said after a long time
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Post by The City [EclipseZwolf] on Apr 24, 2017 16:34:52 GMT -8
"Like I said, just because its MY machine gun doesn't mean I was the one who committed murder. I could very well loose my neighbor's murderous dog on some random stranger and my neighbor isn't the murderer at that point. Again, maybe some unfortunate blame due to raising a murderous dog, but he is not the killer in that case yes?"
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Post by John Dark Souls on Apr 24, 2017 16:46:59 GMT -8
"This is hard. I don't even see why the killer isn't the dog in that case, but I'll try to accept it. In any case, would that mean that the winged person who decided to approach the angry murderous machine you just left there killed themselves then?"
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Post by Daiwa Scarlet on Apr 24, 2017 18:07:16 GMT -8
"A machine is somewhat different from an animal. This one appears to require someone controlling it to function... seeing as it is not just targeting everyone blindly."
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Post by Naru on Apr 25, 2017 16:14:30 GMT -8
"Finire, how could you have seen the bullet if your standing in front? We saw it went through Hiro from the back"
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Post by The City [EclipseZwolf] on Apr 28, 2017 5:40:35 GMT -8
"Well, as anyone can see I am taller than Hiro. Though I could not directly see the impact, I saw the bullet fly through the majority of its path and the subsequent splatter of blood from it impacting Hiro. I apologize if my statement was misleading. Although to get rid of any doubt..."
"Nothing happened to the bullet while I could not see it just prior to it hitting Hiro. I know this because I have camera footage of the event."
"Since you all seem to be having some trouble following through with the trial, let me take a step forward and push this along."
"The cause of death was a bullet. We know this from the Murder Report, which is 100% truth and undeniable."
"The sentry gun is a tool to be used, much like a sword or dagger. It is not an animal or person or living being. Anyone can look at it to confirm this."
"A sentry gun works by firing bullets at high speed. Anyone who has access to the Library by solving its riddle can find a book explaining this."
"There are no other items in the Trial of Diamonds that can fire bullets. Just take a look around. The ceiling and floor and walls have no other points for guns to come out and no other firearm things are here. And just to confirm, no one had access to a firearm prior to or at the time of Hiro's death other than the sentry gun."
"Based on these points we can make a few deductions. Since the Sentry gun fires bullets, nothing else in the trial of diamonds can fire bullets, no one had access to any firearm other than the sentry gun, and the victim who died in the trial of diamonds died by bullet, it is reasonable to assume that the sentry gun was the tool used to fire the bullet and kill Hiro, making it the Murder Weapon."
"According to the rules of this game, the person who used the murder weapon to kill the target is the murderer."
"Based on these points, that the Sentry Gun is the Murder Weapon and that whoever uses the murder weapon to kill the target is considered the murderer, the person who killed Hiro is the one who controlled the Sentry Gun and made it fire at Hiro."
"Apologies if this seems a bit ham-fisted, but this is the kind of line of reasoning that you could use to determine the murder weapon. Obviously some of this knowledge is only privy to me as the mastermind, so I am cutting some corners on the actual deduction. Specifically the chance that the bullet came from outside the room. I am denying that with my own abilities as the mastermind to simplify this."
"Also, even though in this example my deductions are based on undeniable fact, many of your future deductions will need to assume something is true, but you can't confirm. As an example..."
"Lets consider that the killer used a firearm to kill Hiro that was outside the Trial of Diamonds. This point is denied by my earlier statements, so it has no weight, but if it wasn't denied it could be used for deductions such as this. Combine it with, Hiro was shot in the back and was facing north at the time of death. Once you combine these two points you can make the deduction that Hiro was shot from one of the rooms south of the trial of diamonds, specifically the Q.C.E and Q.C.W Hallways!"
"REMEMBER! You can't argue with logical deductions like this! You CAN argue with the points its based on. So to defeat the deduction that Hiro was shot from the Q.C.E or Q.C.W hallways, you need to destroy the assumption that the killer used a firearm that was outside the trial of diamonds. You can still introduce alternate possibilities as well so no need to be concerned on that side of things."
"Any questions?"
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Post by The City [EclipseZwolf] on Apr 28, 2017 7:51:03 GMT -8
"As a hint on how to proceed. Think about what you can use to determine the killer. You have to figure out how the killer controlled the Sentry Gun. Some important things then become, from where was the sentry gun controlled and what does the murderer need to aim the gun."
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Post by Daiwa Scarlet on Apr 28, 2017 15:03:48 GMT -8
"Finire, you claim that Hiro's death was not your doing, so what had you been intending to do to the volunteer?"
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