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Post by The City [EclipseZwolf] on Feb 24, 2014 16:04:04 GMT -8
You guys started theorizing so fast that I decided to open the trial a little early.
So....
Who was the one who done in Seija?
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Post by Yuni Shingyouji on Feb 24, 2014 16:10:15 GMT -8
Mystio is seen sad, she shows up, showing a large notepad filled with notes.
First of all, I am very sorry for the death of Seija.
Second, I have spent my day documenting all the items in the building. This is as such.
FRONT OFFICE -4 pens (5 with mine) -1 scissors -20 mags
SERVER -lots wire -5 wire cutters -200 zip ties -20 velcro strips
MEETING -1 notepad (2 with mine) -1 fire extinquisher -1 long stick
CLOSET -2 brooms -2 mops -4 buckets -8 rags -4 windex -1 ball and chain
COLLECTION -3 scalpels -1 broken syringe -1 syringe -6 gloves -1 goggles
This is to prepare for the murders so I may actually help investigate.
Items missing are the Long Stick, 1 Rag, 3 Gloves, and the Syringe apparently looks broken.
What have you guys found out so far?
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Post by King V on Feb 24, 2014 16:41:40 GMT -8
-walks in carrying Remilia- Let's get things started with the cause of death. It's pretty obvious that the victim died from bloodloss, due to the wound in their neck. The large bruise on their head indicates that they were probably knocked out and brought in to the Collection Room. I'm curious though. The victim clearly died from bloodloss, but where did all of the blood go?
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Post by Yuni Shingyouji on Feb 24, 2014 17:04:05 GMT -8
I checked the inventory of Seiji. This is what I found.
Syringe 1.00 2 Needles Long Metal Stick 2.0
The syringe is unbroken.
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Post by King V on Feb 24, 2014 17:21:20 GMT -8
Hmm... it's strange how the culprit left all the items that were supposedly used to commit this murder on the victim. Surely we would've realized right away that the syringe needles were not the cause of the wound if we did a simple comparison.
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Post by Ravan on Feb 24, 2014 17:40:10 GMT -8
(Right, seeing as it's rather late here in Norway, I'm going to post my findings and head off to bed. They may be flawed, but I hope they make at least some form of sense.)
Earlier today, about two hours ago now, we found Seija dead in the Collection Room. We also found Mystio knocked out nearby in the same room. We heard shouting from the room coming from Raiden, who had mentioned that he was tied up, and that Mystio was knocked out, and Seija was dead. I myself headed over to the Collection Room, but stopped on the way to check whether or not there was anything in the Preparation Room, as it was a new room to me. I found nothing, and continued on into the Preparation Room.
I commenced my investigation as I entered, and discovered a few things. Namely that underneath the small bed in the Collection Room, there were signs that someone or something had been there earlier. I examined the back of Seija's head and found a rather large bruise, which leads one to believe that she had been knocked out in another location and then brought to the Collection Room. The wound underneath her neck had blood oozing out of it as well. I checked Mystio and found that she had a large bruise on her face that most likely came from Seija's fist. I also checked the pad in the back of the room and discovered that it would suck enough blood out of you to leave you drowsy if you stuck your hand in it.
After my investigation in the Collection Room, I went to ask Raiden a few questions as he was the first to witness the scene of the crime. Basically, I discovered that he had a long thin strip of a bruise on the back of his head that coincided with the missing metal stick, later to be found on Seija. He told me that he was in the Collection Room earlier, and had examined the same pad I had. He had the markings that I did, so I could confirm that it was true. He told me that right as the pad finished sucking his blood, he was knocked out.
As mentioned before, underneath the small bed in the Collection Room were signs that someone or something had come out of it. We can assume it was a person though, as the bruise that was on the back of Raiden's head most likely didn't appear by accident. So Raiden was knocked out and tied up, while the perpetrator most likely had lured Mystio to the room and knocked her out immediately. Then, the unconscious body of Seija was placed in the room, and the killer had then finished off Seija with either a needle or a wire.
(I probably messed up my theory somewhere, but I know it's not fully complete, and I'm rather tired, so I hope this proves to be useful to anyone else investigating!)
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Post by Yuni Shingyouji on Feb 24, 2014 17:41:50 GMT -8
I think of the possibility of suicide. The suspect suicided while standing, and fell to the ground, smashing her head against the ground. This caused the large bruise and the dent. The items used was in their inventory, that spells out almost everything that might have happened..
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Post by King V on Feb 24, 2014 17:57:20 GMT -8
I think I can summarize the events of this murder. The culprit was hiding under the bed in the Collection Room. They awaited there with the metal stick and knocked out Raiden, who came into the room shortly afterwards. Raiden was tied up and left there. The culprit then went off and knocked out Seija, likely carrying her into the Collection Room. The culprit brought several items along with them, gloves, a rag, and a sharpened wire. The sharpened wire was used to stab Seija in the neck, creating a superficially shallow wound in an attempt to throw us off the cause of death. They planted more red herrings by breaking the needles off the syringes nearby and planting them on Seija. They also planted the metal stick that was used to knock everyone out on the victim, and smashed a syringe on the ground as well. Then they went to hide all of the relevant items in a bucket in the Supply Closet. The killing blow was dealt by smashing the victim's head into the ground, hiding the original bruise that knocked them out. Then, Mystio entered the scene. The culprit, not wanting their plans to be disturbed, grabbed Seija's hand and slapped Mystio across the face, knocking her out. They left the scene shortly afterwards. I suspect that subduing and tying up Raiden was a ploy to pin the murder on him. The true culprit would've been someone else at the scene. As such, I suspect Jin of being the culprit. If we had a list of people present at the time, or who took the metal rod in the first place, we could easily narrow down the suspects.
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Post by Yuni Shingyouji on Feb 24, 2014 18:03:36 GMT -8
They used the victims hand to knock me out? That sounds ridiculous, but possible. What I want to know is why tie up Raiden if he was knocked out if they were going to pin the murder on him. He couldn't have tied himself up.
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Post by King V on Feb 24, 2014 18:05:55 GMT -8
They were probably planning on leaving him there, seeing as they wanted to pin the murder on him. Knocking someone out only lasts for so long, and the culprit would've left the scene in a hurry.
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Post by Yuni Shingyouji on Feb 24, 2014 18:07:25 GMT -8
So what you're saying is. It was a very sloppy rushed brute force murder.
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Post by King V on Feb 24, 2014 18:22:24 GMT -8
Alright, I think I've worked out how the hand-shaped bruise works into all of this. As the culprit was moving the body of Seija back into the Collection Room after gathering the rag and wire needed to fake the neck wound, Mystio entered the room. The culprit, having left their metal rod behind in the Collection Room due to the weight of the body, instead used Seija's hand to knock out Mystio, allowing them to proceed with the murder. This may change the order of events slightly, but I believe the culprit remains the same. Jin is the most likely suspect. Remilia is also suspicious, although less so than Jin. I'll do some background on Remilia, but right now Jin seems most suspicious.
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Post by Yuni Shingyouji on Feb 24, 2014 18:30:28 GMT -8
I think it matches all the evidence, and explains the knock outs and markings.
It explains all the bruising and the items present.
I think it is very reasonable to believe this is at least close to what would have happened.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2014 18:35:02 GMT -8
I suppose this would support Nue's theory that the cause of death was due to head trauma.
Verbal Bullet #1 Seija's Bloodshot EyesI was surprised to see no one else had noticed the victims eyes were closed, so I believe this completely rules out the suicide theory.
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Post by King V on Feb 24, 2014 23:27:20 GMT -8
Alright, because the lack of conclusive evidence doesn't sit well with me, I'm going to add one more theory.
There is no conclusive evidence anywhere on Jin. Also, due to the way the murder was structured, the culprit literally could be anyone who was present at the time Raiden was knocked out. This leads me to believe that the murderer was someone else at the scene.
Current suspects are people who were at the scene, except perhaps Raiden and Mystio, since they were undoubtedly knocked out, and there are no accomplices. To my knowledge, the people at the scene were Remilia, Ravan, Jin, Clear, Yamada, and myself.
Obviously I won't suspect myself. Through interrogation, I also consider Remilia unlikely, since she didn't seem to have entered the game until after the body announcement. I have thoroughly searched Jin for signs of conclusive evidence, but found none.
That leaves the rest of the suspects as likely. Although, since the investigation time frame has passed, I doubt any more evidence will be found. The culprit would've had quite a ways to go to hide the evidence in the supply closet, so anyone who made a lot of movements around the time of body discovery would be the most viable for committing the murder.
I would label a single person as the most likely culprit, but I'd rather not go on a wild goose chase with nothing to back me up. I do have my suspicions, however...
If one thinks about how this murder occurred, I think it'd be reasonable to say that the culprit has a fair amount of dust on them from hiding under the bed. If anyone is able to conduct further examinations, I would check likely suspects for dust.
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