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Post by King V on Mar 14, 2016 5:18:50 GMT -8
 "What supernatural agency? I'm simply arguing against Emil being the culprit, I'm not saying the murder was done by magic. Besides, I've already proved that the Hermit allows me to conduct further investigations while we are discussing here. This is a perfectly valid exception to the trial rule, nothing more." |
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Post by King V on Mar 14, 2016 5:23:46 GMT -8
 "If it's come to this, then I suppose I have to." " I am not the culprit." "Furthermore, although it's unnecessary, I've never seen any stone archway in the assembly room. So Ikeda, how do you propose I entered a stone archway when I can't even see that one exists?" |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 7:13:32 GMT -8
"Tagomi was Girl A with you at the time you heard the sound of gunshots? and if so was she with you since like 10 min before the sound of gunshots and stayed with you until you heard the sound and then she immediately left?"
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Post by Exusiai on Mar 14, 2016 8:23:33 GMT -8
"Errm- I believe someone already said this before, but just because you can't see something doesn't mean that it is not there.
The new players passed through the stone archway to arrive here, but you can clearly interact with us and both old and new players can interact with the objects in this mansion, s-so what is to say that you guys can't interact with the stone archway even if it may not be visible?
Ahh, sp-speaking of which, I remember something similar where we last came from. All of the new players clearly saw this black fog that enveloped everything, but the people who actually belonged there didn't notice the fog... but- I guess that's not really important right now.
Although it is pretty much useless for me to continue arguing against your innocence, Kirigiri, Girl A attested that you passed through the stone archway without her aid. Y-You said that you didn't pass through the stone archway, but if Girl A's statement is true, then you would probably have seen whatever was past that arch or maybe you lost your memory after collapsing at the stairwell. Err- th-that's right... Kirigiri, you never mentioned if you recalled anything that happened around the time that Girl A described? N-not if you can actually confirm anything Girl A said, but if you can recall anything that happened during the first blackout."
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Post by King V on Mar 14, 2016 8:56:48 GMT -8
"As far as I can recall, I spoke with Girl A a few minutes before the gunshots occurred. I was standing guard over the circuit breaker, so she only came in for a few minutes then left." "Alright, enough about this archway nonsense. Unknown drugs and hard to understand scientific devices do not exist. If you think there is a stone archway that can transport people outside of the mansion, prove that it exists within the boundaries of modern science." |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 9:18:09 GMT -8
"hmm so assuming what Girl A said is true about you fainting. Hagakure was actually safer being in the bedroom on the 3rd floor since there were people going up and down so chances of getting caught when murdering there are high, so the culprit would've needed hagakure to go to another place to kill them easily, the culprit had Hagakure leave the bedroom in someway.... could be by mentioning aliens?. After Hagakure went to his room that gave the culprit a nice area where very few people were wandering around at the time, the culprit would also need to clear the suspicion off them so they'd need to frame someone perhaps and ofc to be with another person when the murder gets announced so the culprit found poor old Kirigiri on a bed outside from where we came from then took the keys to her room and went to the room took a shampoo and then came back to where Kirigiri on a bed is and put some shampoo on it then went back to Kirigiri's room and put the shampoo back and ofc locking the door then slipping the key into Kirigiri's pockets. This would fulfill the three Reds: The bottle of shampoo is in Kirigiri's Room. Kirigiri's Room is currently locked and the key to it is in Kirigiri-san's possession. During that time the culprit was taking or returning the shampoo, the culprit went to Hagakure's room and ofc Hagakure recognised the culprit how? the culprit talked hagakure into going to his room earlier. So Hagakure opened the door and allowed the murderer in their room and there the murderer stabbed them with a knife which would answer why Hagakure wasn't even able to defend himself, Hagakure felt safe and was wide open with the culprit not knowing he was about to get murdered by them .Which resulted in a Hemorrhagic Shock to Hagakure. Oh now it seems I left something oh the gun!! Finally the gun was used to shoot the door correct then the culprit dropped the gun and hid!! They needed to be with a person to create an alibi stating they were with them ofc the culprit couldn't blend in with many people because they'd probably notice them appearing just now and perhaps leaving immediately so the culprit had to go with a person who's alone then immediately come down making it look as if they just heard gunshots so they need to go down and blend in. "
"Ofc you all know who that person could be.....IT'S GIRL A!! I saw you on the first floor before the gunshots and at that time you were alone but you didn't go upstairs and that would be the time you went to murder and/or take shampoo to frame Kirigiri or perhaps you were going off to shoot the door. Who carried Kirigiri to the bed and was close to her that she can just take the key without any resistance? Obviously Girl A. However in this scenario though Girl A first went to Togami to create an alibi with him then immediately left to shoot at the door then hid when Nox came you had Kirigiri leave her room to trigger the murder announcement AKA the Trial. who was with Kirigiri most of the time waay before the murder, Girl A!! and about the weapons she probably had them either from before or took them while Kirigiri was sleeping on the bed from where we came from"
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Post by John Dark Souls on Mar 14, 2016 10:33:23 GMT -8
 the culprit found poor old Kirigiri on a bed outside from where we came from then took the keys to her room and went to the room took a shampoo and then came back to where Kirigiri on a bed is and put some shampoo on it then went back to Kirigiri's room and put the shampoo back and ofc locking the door then slipping the key into Kirigiri's pockets "Sailor-san, try better. I couldn't possibly frame Kirigiri-san like that because Bottle of Shampoo in Kirigiri-san's Room doesn't look like it was used recently. Thus last time it was used was probably only when Kirigiri-san washed her hair with it. And it would just be rude asking a girl when she last washed her head so don't even think of doing it." So Hagakure opened the door and allowed the murderer in their room and there the murderer stabbed them with a knife which would answer why Hagakure wasn't even able to defend himself "That too is impossible. You speak of it as if Hagakure-san opened the room on his own and then got stabbed there but There are no blood splatters in front of the door inside Hagakure's Room." Hagakure felt safe and was wide open with the culprit not knowing he was about to get murdered by them .Which resulted in a Hemorrhagic Shock to Hagakure " Sailor-san, you really need to study on what Hemorrhagic Shock is." I saw you on the first floor before the gunshots and at that time you were alone but you didn't go upstairs "This testimony of yours contradicts with your alibi testimony. Does this mean Sailor-san wasn't actually on Second Floor with others?However in this scenario though Girl A first went to Togami to create an alibi with him then immediately left to shoot at the door then hid when Nox came you had Kirigiri leave her room to trigger the murder announcement AKA the Trial " This too is impossible. Because Emil-san shot the rusty revolver." about the weapons she probably had them either from before or took them while Kirigiri was sleeping on the bed from where we came from" "Last but not the least, that point too is impossible. Because Emil-san brought weapons into this mansion."  "Sailor-san, with that kind of theory full of holes you won't be able to convict ANYONE..." |
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Post by Daiwa Scarlet on Mar 14, 2016 11:22:05 GMT -8
"Emil has used too much word play for his statements to be relied on. He could have taken the rusty revolver and knife through the archway and back again, perhaps even shooting the revolver after he had passed so the ones in the mansion would not hear."
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Post by yaes on Mar 14, 2016 11:26:21 GMT -8
"Here comes the portals~
I did not take the rusty knife and revolver back through the archway" |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 11:38:52 GMT -8
"First just because the shampoo wasn't used recently doesn't mean you didn't pour it, the last time it was used was probably the time you poured it on the bed and duh ."
"No you didn't immediately stab at the doorway, you of all people know that the body isn't at the doorway. You Entered the room, closed the door and when he felt safe by the bed you stabbed him duh There are some blood stains on the bed sheets that are a bit away from the corpse on Hagakure-san's bed"
"Oh please just because I saw you doesn't mean I wasn't on the second floor no I was there but obviously you can be seen on the first floor hallway from the second my alibi has been confirmed by many unlike you."
"Wrong! All you admitted doing was shooting a bullet through door lock in order to mask the lock already being broken before that! Both gunshots and the scream following them were not signs of when the murder took place, they were all your plan to throw off the actual murder time! Thus all alibis established for when the gunshots sounded off are false!
" Emil-san shot the rusty revolver but the lock of the door was already broken you yourself said"
"Finally, sure Emil brought weapons into this mansion but I didn't specify right -smirks- I'll specify the weapons you most probably brought instead of generalizing them, YOU brought the Knife and the Revolver."
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Post by John Dark Souls on Mar 14, 2016 11:46:50 GMT -8
 "Okay, I too am getting tired of you swinging the trial around Emil-san... Thus, I think I will swing you around the trial next if that makes sense... My culprit theory of this trial, here it is: I'll say from the conclusion, Emil-san and Mirai-san are culprits of this case. Emil-san mentioned bringing weapons into the mansion but he didn't clarify what weapons. Emil-san currently holds an axe that was brought from outside the mansion. And weapons means more than a single weapon. But, when combined with the axe he has right now, he won't be able to hold rusty revolver, rusty knife and axe all together, meaning at least one more person is needed for the murder. And that is Mirai-san. Mirai-san holds a pickaxe right now so she can't carry both murder weapons now too. But if we take both of them together, they would be able to carry all items needed for murder without having to drop their own. The murder went like this: after the mastermind announcement about the new arrivals being taken as official players, Emil-san and Mirai-san decided to kill Hagakure together. But, Emil-san who was more likely to be suspected didn't need to be the one dealing the finishing blow. Thus the two split their tasks on shooting the door which was done by Emil-san who was stronger and was able to rotate the revolver cylinder faster and Mirai-san who went in to stab Hagakure-san right after door got burst through. After quickly finishing the murder, the both went to their original positions. And as to why I think Mirai-san is the culprit herself, here comes the motive: The two are actually lovers! I saw them doing some questionable things together at questionable timing thus it shouldn't be mistaken! So Emil-san wanting to ensure Mirai-san isn't suspected decided to come out as the culprit! So, my theory is that Emil-san is accomplice and Mirai-san is the culprit!"  "And while everyone is distracted chewing through new theory, Togami-san, if you please: examine the Player Room Hallway for the bullet cases that must have been ejected when rusty revolver was shot there to prove that it was indeed shot there, bathroom of the Hagakure-san's Room to see if there was anything I didn't notice about things there, and the rooms connected to the second floor hallway that Isumi-san mentioned Rin-san possibly being in when gunshots rang in for any signs left of her presence there." |
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Post by yaes on Mar 14, 2016 11:47:09 GMT -8
"Let's see, we spend the first half of this little trial discussing portals and other stuff that don't exist. Now the second half of the trial discussing a murderer admitting to it and trying to prove how wrong he is. ...Doesn't make much sense, atleast to me, now some of you think I'm not in my right mind, but I think all of you are far worse. I mean if you really think that I am not the murderer, then why don't you try and tell me who actually is? Why waste time trying to prove that it's not me?
As for the ugly sailor... I brought the rusty revolver and the rusty knife." |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 11:52:38 GMT -8
"ugly Emil!!! Sure you could've just taken them to the place where we came from, then back into the mansion .which would mean you brought the rusty revolver and the rusty knife after they were already here from the time Sova brought them. "
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Post by yaes on Mar 14, 2016 11:54:33 GMT -8
"Here comes the portals~
I did not take the rusty knife and revolver back through the archway" |
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Post by King V on Mar 14, 2016 11:58:34 GMT -8
 "Not so fast! I'm invoking The Sun! Arcanas can no longer be used for the duration of the trial!" "Wha-... it's true, The Hermit no longer works..." -suddenly Rin is dumped into trial-  "Nyaaaaaa! Why did you do that master Satori?! I was having such a good nap! Now I have to be in this stuffy room with all these noisy people!" |
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