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Post by King V on Jan 16, 2014 18:19:41 GMT -8
All of you know the drill.
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Post by V0ltage on Jan 16, 2014 18:29:44 GMT -8
3 murders....this is gonna be tricky. Nonetheless, we need to begin, so I'll begin with my theories. Axel: Axel was killed by Bleck, I see no other possibility than this. Axel was killed right after black's verdict of "guilty" was given. Yet we all know he wasn't executed. Axel was attacked somewhere (because I found a bruise on the back of his head,)and dragged to the bridge where he was pushed off into the abyss. While definitive proof is lacking, Bleck had a motive, opportunity, and ability to kill Axel. Yuno's death isn't as clear to me. While this was originally what I thought could NOT happen, here's my guess of what happened. yuno had a pistol on her, and has one bullet wound through her head, along with the dried tears. The tears meant she knew the death was coming, so it seems she shot herself, except for one problem. I can't find a bloodstain near the bridge. Unless she shot herself in midair, there should have been one on the bridge if it was a suicide. Any help here would be appreciated. Now Bleck...I really can't piece much together on his. He was dragged from/through the ampitheater to the underground lake. all his limbs were shot once. I can find nothing else which is of any help as far as his is concerned. Anyone able to help me out with this?
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Post by Eclipsezwolf on Jan 16, 2014 18:31:51 GMT -8
I went and dozed off for a short time and so many people died.... I blame myself for my lack of vigilance. Let us honor them by discovering who it was that stole their lives. After the end of the Trial where Bleck killed Karen I returned to the 4th crater and hid there. I was there over the entire time of the murder. Where was everyone else over the course of events?
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Post by Eclipsezwolf on Jan 16, 2014 18:36:17 GMT -8
Perhaps I can shed some light on Bleck's case. Bleck was found in the underground lake basin and a trail of blood led from his body to the amphitheater, where I found 4 bullet casings. I am led to believe that he was shot in the amphitheater either fled or was dragged to the Lake. I expect he fled because he died facing in the direction of the amphitheater with his hand extended outwards as if reaching something. The question is his cause of death as the files do not specify.
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Post by V0ltage on Jan 16, 2014 18:41:29 GMT -8
Interesting...But that doesn't make sense. Even if he was shot in the amphitheater, could he have died in there seeing as it's a safe zone? Unless maybe the gas got him. But that doesn't seem likely since at the time of his death, he was a man on the run.
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Post by Eclipsezwolf on Jan 16, 2014 18:49:18 GMT -8
The gas likely could have made him panic, and he may have fled from that and the shots occurred even as he began to try and avoid the gas.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2014 18:55:25 GMT -8
The whole Alibi thing doesn't seem to cut it anymore, We assumed Bleck had an alibi last time, but he turned out to have done it. At this moment, no one has an alibi because we were all alone.
So then... Allow me to begin. I'll start with case #1 Yuno Gasai. Here's the results of my search: Yuno was found dead at the bottom of the ravine with a bullet wound was found in her head. She was laying face down, and had blood on her hand. She had a greater amount of blood around her head than Axel. There were blood spatters around her body.
Next is case #2 Axel Chatterbox Here's the results of my search: He was found dead at the bottom of the ravine, with small bruise on his head. He too was laying down, his back was dirty. He had multiple splatters around him from the fall.
Now here are other things I found. Leading from the Bathhouse to the bridge is a trail. Someone or thing was dragged.
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Post by V0ltage on Jan 16, 2014 19:05:01 GMT -8
The gas likely could have made him panic, and he may have fled from that and the shots occurred even as he began to try and avoid the gas. Small flaw in that theory. Again, he couldn't have been shot in the amphitheater unless he had already died. He couldn't have been poisoned, choked, or bludgeoned, (not counting the very small chance of poison cloud,) as I checked his head thoroughly. If he was alive to avoid the gas, he must have been killed somewhere outside the amphitheater, yet the blood stains begin inside it. Therefore, he was killed Somewhere outside the amphitheater!! The problem is how he died. If he was shot to death, it would have needed to have been somewhere behind the amphitheater, closer to the area he was found. Yet the trail of blood does not turn around at all, so we can conclude he was shot inside it. Sorry, even though this is my thought, I'll need to take a second to collect myself before I can continue
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Post by Mash Burnedead Ha on Jan 16, 2014 19:08:59 GMT -8
Next is case #2 Axel Chatterbox Here's the results of my search: He was found dead at the bottom of the ravine, with small bruise on his head. He too was laying down, his back was dirty. He had multiple splatters around him from the fall.
「This reminds me of the Karen's murder」
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2014 19:09:04 GMT -8
Somewhere outside the amphitheater!! Shut up for a second!! If I recall correctly. At the abandoned camp there was some dirt at one of the tents. It looked like it was rubbed away. Mixed in with it was blood.
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Post by V0ltage on Jan 16, 2014 19:12:28 GMT -8
Didn't I tell you to shut up!? -Fires verbal bullet- Yuno had a a gun missing a bullet in her hand. For her to be crying she would have had to know the person killing her. That would mean herself or lexi. So tell me... How would they get the gun into her hand like that if she was murdered? Second! Her back is clean! The trail I talked about was drag marks, which if you remember, someone had dirt on their back.
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Post by Eclipsezwolf on Jan 16, 2014 19:27:16 GMT -8
Shishigami-ninpo Forbidden Art: FU-RIN-KA-ZAN!I WILL DESCRIBE POSSIBLE SCENARIOS FOR THE MURDERS TASTE MY TRUE POWER!! The 1st Murder occurred with Axel getting attacked in the bathhouse by our culprit, bashing them on the head and then dragging them to the cliff edge and throwing them over. This occurred at 4:00 and after that the culprit fled the scene. The most likely person to have done this was Count Bleck as like Voltage said he had the motive and the ability. Unless evidence shows that this was actually a copycat murder I will stand by the idea that Bleck indeed killed Axel and then fled to the amphitheater where he met his untimely demise. Next is the case of Yuno Gasai where she was found in the bottom of the ravine with a bullet would to the head and a pistol in her hand. We know that Juno was dead at some point before the trial for Karen. They were not originally in the Ravine as we would have seen them. This means the body was also moved and thrown in. The way in which she died is also unknown. The bullet appears to be what killed her, but if she had been shot in the head beforehand then blood should have covered the area where she was shot. The tears on her face imply that something personal had occurred which traumatized her greatly. This means either a betrayal by Noiz or something happened to Noiz. I have little to comment further on Yuno's case. The third murder was that of Count Bleck. The scenario continues from where the first murder left off. Bleck has fled to the amphitheater to try and avoid having players take revenge on him for the murder of Karen. Here he met his mysterious assailant. There is NO DOUBT that Bleck was attacked in the amphitheater, after all, why else would the culprit waste bullets on the limbs instead of going for vital organs. Then just had to move Bleck from the room and let him perish. The gun Yuno had in her hand was only missing a single bullet so it could not have been the gun to have struck down Bleck. We need to find the other guns and see which ones are missing 4 or more bullets.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2014 19:27:45 GMT -8
Didn't I tell you to shut up!? -Fires verbal bullet- Yuno had a a gun missing a bullet in her hand. For her to be crying she would have had to know the person killing her. That would mean herself or lexi. So tell me... How would they get the gun into her hand like that if she was murdered? Second! Her back is clean! The trail I talked about was drag marks, which if you remember, someone had dirt on their back.
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Post by V0ltage on Jan 16, 2014 19:58:57 GMT -8
Ok, so we have Yuno and Axel's murder's down. Now for Bleck...
first, let's list who it could have possibly been. We at least need to get that out there.
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Post by Eclipsezwolf on Jan 16, 2014 20:04:42 GMT -8
I know that all of us were supposedly alone, but let us describe what our actions were during the time of the event again. After Karen's trial I returned to the 4th crater and hid there to monitor the weapons that remained. I was there over the entire course of the murder. I left upon hearing that murder had occurred in order to investigate.
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