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Post by Pokedude12 on Nov 2, 2014 13:25:24 GMT -8
Yeah, I saw Rinny making that wooden ball earlier. The lights were also on in the Supply Closet and the F2 Hall at the time. I went to check out the other rooms upstairs afterwards and even found the safe empty. But before any of that, I was exploring the new Extra Rooms and saw Polly and Togs there. I don't know how long they took in there; but they did spend some time exploring. Also, I'd like to mention that it's not impossible that this was done by someone who'd read the *Assembly* Room book beforehand. After all, Shingy did die in the way that the book said he would; and the notes weren't scattered around until after he died. At least, not that I noticed. Also, Riri, the taser thing started as speculation from Rinny because of how concentrated the *burn* area is and how strong it had to be for such a small area. I'll agree that I couldn't find anything like that either; but it definitely couldn't be something big. And it also had to have instant effect of KO if it was used first, otherwise the victim would've let out a scream 'cuz of the pain. But I can't think of anything that would do that though... Still, it might have been used afterward too... *[Word]* = Edit (Replaced Announcement for Assembly, and shock for burn)
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Trial #3
Nov 2, 2014 13:30:42 GMT -8
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Post by The Viscount on Nov 2, 2014 13:30:42 GMT -8
...Tell me. Who took the card in the safe? Come clean, whoever you are. It might help me make my point. Maybe. Or maybe not.
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Post by Pokedude12 on Nov 2, 2014 15:07:52 GMT -8
Um, Polly? Just curious, how do you know there was a card in the safe? If the safe was locked when it was first found, then it's stuff was unknown until it was opened. If someone opened the safe, then that person could take what was inside without anyone else's knowing. But you say there was a card there; did you open it first and not take the card? If not, then how did you know there a card was there? And Kite, what were you doing when you got beamed into the crime scene? Where were you before you got taken there? I want to put together the events of the body's discovery and be sure of that before I think about other stuff. Also, if anyone else can tell what happened to them during the time shift, please share!
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Trial #3
Nov 2, 2014 15:29:29 GMT -8
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Post by The Viscount on Nov 2, 2014 15:29:29 GMT -8
I'm glad you asked, Mr. Hagakure! I was told by someone who knew there was a card and a bladed object in the safe, but did not have it themselves! ...Yep. That's it. There's... Really nothing special about it. When I checked, the safe was still closed. I didn't check the safe again that day.
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Post by John Dark Souls on Nov 2, 2014 16:32:21 GMT -8
Hmmmmmmm... I just realized something... We already mentioned that we haven't seen anything that could have shocked the victim unconscious in the mansion itself so we haven't touched the subject until now since we thought we could've just missed something, but... What if the answer is much simpler than that? What if the shocking item wasn't hidden in the mansion but was in the culprit's hand from the very beginning of the game? If that is the case, than I can be proven innocent because my starting item was scalpel and not only it was confirmed by Kaito Kid, by also stolen by him twice. I also know that Satori-sama's personal item isn't anything able of shocking. Thus if we go by me, Togami and Satori-sama being only possible suspects, the only one who could be the culprit is... Byakuya Togami! You most definitely are the culprit! [/font][/div]
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2014 16:33:31 GMT -8
A magician arrives on the scene!
As Mr. Togami said, he had been helping me quite a bit before the murder occurred. Due to this, he had little time to do any other things really.
And if we go with the bullet Hagakure provided us...
It means Mr. Togami could not have committed the crime as he had no time to prepare!
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Post by Pokedude12 on Nov 2, 2014 16:38:08 GMT -8
That's actually pretty anti-climatic (to Apollo); but that aside, I think Riri's onto something here. If Rinny has an alibi from me and Sats, and Togs has one 'cuz of me and Kite, it makes it pretty hard for them to do the setup under our noses. Plus, two people can't even work together to kill someone. Of course, people can mess with the crime scene afterward, but that's besides the point. If we take both of them out of the equation, do we have a suspect left? Another thing, the blood trails were drops, so they weren't pushed along by some object--they came from some container the culprit had with them. You guys talked about a mop; but I don't think it was used to make the mess. It'd be a literal pain to hold that up all around the place. Also, are the rags thick enough to soak the blood without letting it seep to the floor? If the murder happened in Extra Room 10, we have a problem. There's a large, complete circle of blood in the middle of the room. If that much blood poured out while the victim was there, we'd have drag trails instead of drops, no matter what item was used. The rug is pretty thick and might be able to hold it; but how would the blood reach the floor then? I think Extra Room 10 might be phony, especially since I didn't find blood anywhere in the open except in the middle, unless there's another thing I missed.
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Post by Satori on Nov 2, 2014 16:45:20 GMT -8
I can confirm that me and Orin had met a few times on the 2nd floor but didn't see each other again until the trial. As for where I was around the time of the murder, I stayed in my room almost the whole time hours before the murder even up till the trial began and I was also not active around the time of the murder. Although this isn't enough to prove my innocence but if I had committed this murder, I would have had moved around a lot around the time of the murder and would have been seen by someone at least once or twice. Although I would support Orin's theory that Togami is the culprit but I would like to make a theory of my own. This may sound crazy but I think that NONE of us here are really the culprit in this murder but an unknown extra person that is living amongst us or "Mysterious Culprit X" as I would call them. (Yes. This has happened before in previous seasons) Now why do I think that is the case? Well if you take a look at the prophecy of the first 2 days, Both Shing and Sen were murdered exactly as it was predicted. Although there isn't much hard proof to support this but haven't you guys noticed that every time a murder occurs, there is a time shift? Even Kaito claimed that he was suddenly teleported to the crime scene when the shift occurred. Coincidence perhaps? If such a phenomenon does exist then we cannot deny the possibility that the prophecy itself holds true and if that were the case then it would also mean that the true culprit of this trial would have never been found. Now I'm just curious Mr. Justice. Who told you about the contents of the safe and how did they know what was in it?
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Post by Hereiss Aelori on Nov 2, 2014 16:57:41 GMT -8
I believe you are mistaken, Hagakure. The blood trails undoubtedly came from the plushies with knives stuck through them. All of the blood trails are the same size, and they are all composed of droplets. This leads me to believe the same item was used in creating all of them. If you examine the plushies placed in the library, assembly room, and laundry room, they all have blood trails leading to them. I'm assuming the culprit used the plushies to soak up blood from the victim first, then used the blood dripping from them to create the blood trails. VERBAL BULLET - LACK OF BLOOD I also disagree with Extra Room 10 being a red herring. It was obvious from my observations that the victim had already lost a significant amount of blood apart from the blood in Extra Room 8. The victim was likely killed in room 10, then moved to room 8. It was mentioned previously that there was a red rug hidden in room 8. I propose the culprit used this to prevent a blood trail from forming between room 10 and room 8. The smell of paint around the rug and its red color would also mask any trace of blood getting on the rug. The rags found near the chair could have been used to clean up any additional blood trails left by the culprit. As for my final point... Rin, you claimed to have been operating on the 2nd floor for most of the day, correct? If this is true, then there is an extremely strong possibility that the culprit is not you. I've been wondering this for awhile now... why didn't the culprit leave blood trails upstairs as well? They had the tools to do it, and simply walking through all the rooms on the 2nd floor would have taken no more than 5 minutes, so why didn't they. I believe it was because Rin was still wandering around upstairs. The culprit didn't want to be seen, and so they avoided leaving blood trails upstairs due to Rin's presence on the 2nd floor! It's not completely certain, but I don't believe Rin is the culprit.
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Trial #3
Nov 2, 2014 17:07:05 GMT -8
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Post by The Viscount on Nov 2, 2014 17:07:05 GMT -8
The person who told me the contents of the case is none other than Sen Yarizui herself. She told me that someone had told her that there was a card in the safe, as well as a bladed weapon in there... And she said that it maybhave been a hint to the murder. However, if we consider everything, and we can, in fact, trust Satori Komeji... I know who the murderer is. When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, is the truth! Mr. Mastermind, if what everything we consider is true, if the prophecy is correct, if the person truly isn't among us, then so is my next statement... You, the person who has imprisoned us here, the one who forced us to kill to leave... You, Mr. Mastermind, are the murderer!
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Post by King V on Nov 2, 2014 17:11:59 GMT -8
-a large computer screen in the trial room flickers on- "It's a little too early to be calling me out, don't you think?" "If you truly believe that I am the culprit, perhaps it would be best to start by finding out who I really am." "I can assure you that the only people in this house are the ones standing right here in this trial room." "I may be The Mastermind, but I am still human. Figure out who I might be and you may find the truth you are looking for." "Goodbye now." -the screen flickers off-
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Trial #3
Nov 2, 2014 17:29:56 GMT -8
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Post by The Viscount on Nov 2, 2014 17:29:56 GMT -8
That is an amazing question... One I am sure we can, in fact, find out. While you all may not be able to, I can say that I am just about sure that myself, Shing Meteoryte, Siren Sings, and Sen Yarizui are not the culprit. That leaves... How many more? 11 or 12, something like that. Let's think about it. I can say that Chairy Potter might be the culprit because he died out of turn, but the possibilities are close to none. Did anybody make absolute sure that Chairy Potter was dead in the first place? Or that it was actually him? Anyways, I highly doubt it was him. Right now, my main suspects are Kaito Kid, mainly for his actions towards the start of the time we were here, Kyouko Kirigiri, because she always seems to know a lot about these murders, even how Shing Meteoryte's death was instantaneous, and even Yasuhiro Hagakure, because his note has so far been carried out to the tee... Well, any other theories?
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Post by John Dark Souls on Nov 2, 2014 18:06:12 GMT -8
Hey, if the culprit is the mastermind, couldn't they have actually rig the murder report and body announcement? So doesn't this kinda mean that both Mr. Attorney and Kaito Kid could still be culprits? But saying that will bring us nowhere so lets forget this fact and move on.
I want everyone to list their personal items and I want even more for people to show them. I already know that Chairy's and Mr. Attorney's personal items were pens and that Shing's personal item was a military knife so there is no possibility of culprit taking their items and using them to shock the victim. Thus I ultimately assume that person whose personal item is a taser or something of a kind is a murderer. And unless Togami gives me enough proof that his isn't, I will still continue saying this every time:
Byakuya Togami! You are the culprit of this case!
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Post by The City [EclipseZwolf] on Nov 2, 2014 18:11:36 GMT -8
Fine, the only item I woke up with was my cell phone. I was looking for a good chance to speak with you all about this and now is as good a time as any.
My cell phone is just that, a regular cell phone. I attempted to call my contacts and 911 almost immediately after the Assembly room wake-up we all had. I couldn't get any calls through. I noticed that strangely I had called 911 a total of FOUR HUNDRED TIMES that very day, yet I remember none of those calls.
There ya go, my lone starting possession and the mystery behind it. I am still trying to figure it out myself.
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Post by King V on Nov 2, 2014 18:27:24 GMT -8
Debate is closed. Please send your votes at earliest convenience.
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