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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2014 23:37:08 GMT -8
The advantage is clear as day... You would be able to be at two places at once, obtain double the items, save yourself from danger, and have the overwhelming advantage of two versus one in any sort of dispute!
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2014 23:43:24 GMT -8
However...would you actually be able to do that? Let's look at this for a bit. Air never brought out ESP save for trials. Why? Because playing two characters is difficult. This means for the short time that the person is swapping characters, their other character would be left exposed. Seeing as how we know who the traitor's secondary character is, who in their right mind would think of the bonus you could reap in? I'll tell you who, the one person who claims he has the knowledge to, the one who does sees what benefits there are to reap. If it's not air or someone hiding, who would be so ready to jump at the chance to wield the burden of a second character? I see no added effect that one would truly work so hard to keep.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2014 23:52:04 GMT -8
I suppose the advantage strictly depends on the ability of its user, but I don't see how this discussion will take us any closer to finding out the true culprit.
You stated the only people active were Rei, Makoto, Satori, Luna, Sea, and Gyste... However, I believe someone else was working from the shadows. The true culprit!
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2014 0:01:01 GMT -8
Do you have any form of proof that it was someone from the shadows. Because if you do, I would love to hear it. If not then I'll keep going. So far it seems the like proof is ending up on your side of the scale.
Just to clarify I will state my proof: Makoto holds true being a Persony fan, he has shown this through getting his friend to join as Naoto before AND how often he has P3 Protag pics. I stalk your profile yes. Second is you said it yourself, you wanted to make multiple accounts, characters. I'm sure forcing sea into a game like this would have gotten you those characters. Third you are one of the few who see any real value in a secondary character, as I'm sure vets of old 'ESPs' would say it is very difficult to control two characters at all times. Lastly you knew well that this would end in a trial, or was X lying in red? Or were you lying when you said that? If you lied about something like that why should we believe you are telling the truth about lying about it?
It's not looking good for you and 'Naoto'. If you want to play it where we fight to the end I'll be happy to join in, but in the end my red truth will break through all blue lies! Have at thee!
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2014 0:11:46 GMT -8
I don't see how stating that I am a fan of Persona is any sort of 'proof'.
I admit that at some point I mentioned that I thought it would be interesting to play on two accounts, but only with the hosts consent.
As I stated before, the value depends on its user. To some it might be nothing more than a burden, but to others it would be an advantage.
I simply guessed that X might take the opportunity to set up a pre-game trial, and he did.
Your assumptions aren't any 'proof' as you state, they are merely ideas that you have created in your mind, and you believe they are the truth... Very sad, I must say.
At this point there is very little to go on, and the only way to obtain the truth is making statements and having X confirm them...
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2014 0:20:20 GMT -8
I never make up any ideas~ I simply remember everything you say/and share. You deny being a Persony fan but it's not hard to pick out who they are. While the ability is a guess somewhat, at the present moment you are the one boasting he knows how easy it is, doing all the right tricks. Or was I mistaken in reading that~? While I cannot say if it will be a burden, I'm sure if the mastermind states it will be that would have to deter the general public. Finally I agree you guessed as to this happening, but when did you guess? Who knows. Rather than disproving my arguments with your own maybes, why don't you fight to prove who you think did it. Ironic you say it was someone from the shadows, because as I remember from day 1 on the forums you've had invisible on. That sounds very shadowy to me. If you really want to prove your innocence how about start by putting some pieces together. This case clearly has some.
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Post by King V on May 13, 2014 5:32:42 GMT -8
Looks like you guys need a hint... At the time Naoto was created, 6 people were online. Nobody was working from the shadows.Although I can see invisible people so that's not saying much for all of you hahaha.
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Post by Satori on May 13, 2014 6:38:20 GMT -8
So X stated that 6 people were online at the time Naoto was created and Marisa mentioned that Makoto, Satori, Luna, Sea, Gyste and Marisa were the only ones active in the skype chat at the time Naoto was created and were probably the same 6 people who were who were online in the forum at the time Naoto was created which would mean that the traitor could have only been one of the 6 of them.
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Post by John Dark Souls on May 13, 2014 7:08:10 GMT -8
『Hello everyone, Komaeda-imouto here~I'll be joining this fun trial in order to help people's hope to reveal the identity of person wishing to make a 2nd character. But then again, I feel that revealing all points by myself will be boring and won't make your hopeful abilities shine, thus I will but share hints ^_^』
『Lets go with the first one, Marisa here said that making and controlling 2nd characters is a whole lot of work, but that isn't exactly correct so for some people. There are 2 such people in the list of 6 suspects.』
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2014 9:32:52 GMT -8
That is indeed very true, that some people may have an easier time. But the fact is who here among us, at that point in time would have enough skill to elude us, work both players and ultimately after all that is said and done, what merit, or even what reason would they have to carry on this facade knowing full well their plans have been exposed. I mean, I doubt anyone will really pair with Naoto for an alliance and I know if she gets something important that I want, then I will be knocking her out and taking the times. I'm sure many others are thinking along those lines as well.
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Post by John Dark Souls on May 13, 2014 10:26:14 GMT -8
『Hint number 2, there was a single person absent from general skype chat at the time when Naoto was created.』
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2014 10:33:07 GMT -8
Absent? Absent how? I know there were a few times where many people were quiet but around that time most people save for the night owls and visitors from another land there's not too many people on. Now on to my biggest question, someone sure is full of knowledge over there, how would you know this person was missing at the time of creation?
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Post by John Dark Souls on May 13, 2014 10:48:50 GMT -8
『Hint number 3, Persona 4 is pretty popular and even has an anime adaptation + almost everyone of the forum has Vita = all members should at least know Persona 4 and it's characters.』
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2014 10:53:21 GMT -8
I was hoping to bait someone into confirming that only those were active...
But it seems Mr. X was kind enough to tell us on it's own! What a great AI.
This narrows it down to a mere three people. I'm sure you all know why it could not have been X or Mask, and Luna doesn't even have an application. The only possible suspects are myself, Marisa, and Satori... Now that my suspicions are confirmed, I'd like to see what everyone else comes up with.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2014 11:04:41 GMT -8
Well then we must being to get down to the nitty gritty, we need to flush out every ounce of truth to bring this traitor to justice. No more assumptions from either sides, let us re tale all the facts and and being to find our truth! Who is the first up? If you have no heavy duty evidence then please be sure to back it up, otherwise it'll only add to the confusion.
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