Fate - Trial #2

[King V]

Discuss the murders of Rin and Isumi here.

For more information go here: drmmo.proboards.com/thread/3674/fate-murder-reports-2-3

[The City [EclipseZwolf]]

"Well, guess I'll just interrupt all of these clamoring people."

"I'll just open with my alibi, I was in the First Floor Hallway from the moment the first trial ended through the second body announcement. I left a little after the second announcement."

"These weren't exactly quiet murders, so I would like it if people could give us alibis and testimonies as to what they saw and heard. I don't think it will be terribly hard to deduce who was where at the time."

[John Dark Souls]

"*sighs* What is with these two murders... Which should be discussed first? And what should I even start with? I don't know... But, there should be a start somewhere... *deep breath* Okay, I think we should all start from testimonies of what everyone was doing from moment last trial ended and until the first body announcement sounded as well as any witness reports as to where the victims were last seen alive. Guess I will start first."



"After the trial ended and I found myself in 1st floor hallway in darkness, I turned on my flashlight and then went to Player Room Hallway. I wanted to see if Kirigiri-san's Room was unlocked but that wasn't the case. While at it, I went to see if Hagakure-san was still there but his body along with everything related to his murder was cleanly removed from there. I saw Satori-san enter her room and lock the door and after that I planned to go see if I can turn the light back on but light came back on it's own so I changed my course and went to first floor hallway, I remember taking note of Nox-san being there before moving on to Lounge and to Assembly Room next and after spending some time around there went back and saw Deadpool-san and Togami-san walking and whispering to each other. I decided to stick around from behind and overheard them discussing something dangerous like a murder. It was then that Rin-san suddenly approached them and intruded on their discussion before starting to talk to me about how their topic is interesting. Around that time Allen-san also entered Lounge. After that Rin-san smacked and shook me talking how I shouldn't listen to other people's conversation preventing me from listening further even though she did exactly the same just earlier and then she ran off to Assembly Hall. I followed and saw her being unconscious in Allen's arms. He dropped her to the ground around where I think is about same spot her body is lying in right now and then tried to leave but I strongly gripped his hand so as not to let him go asking to explain. He said he tased her. I gave an eye sign to Deadpool-san that he should tase Allen-san and prepared to let go my hand so as not to get tased along with him, but the person who Deadpool-san tased was me... I lost my consciousness while still gripping Allen-san strongly so I think he went out cold together with me... Sometime later I woke up only to see Allen-san hit himself with the taser... I was still holding his hand so once I again I lost consciousness together with him... Some time afterwards I woke up again to see myself, Allen-san, Togami-san and Rin-san all on the ground. Us 3 except Rin-san started getting up and looking around and then first body announcement rang. I haven't seen anyone else in the Assembly Room at that moment."

"And as to Isumi-san, I'm not sure since I haven't been to second floor since last trial ended and until second body announcement."

[Exusiai]

*Reiten gives a casual nod to those in the trial room. His expression appears contorted as he beamed around with dull eyes*
"Eh- not everyone is here yet?
Of course, Master Rin must also be investigating still... th-that must be it!

I guess I should also explain what I was doing before the announcement. I don't really know when Isumi was murdered, so I'll just try to explain everything as best as I can following the previous trial.
After Kirigi- err... the fake Kirigiri was executed, I noticed that the whole mansion's lights were off, so I dashed straight for the furnace on the third floor. There was some duct tape blocking the door to the furnace, but Mei removed it. I entered and soon discovered that the switch on the panel was also taped down, so it couldn't be removed easily. I was able to cut through it, though and turned on the lights to the mansion."
*Breaking away his narration, Reiten flicks his thumb up proudly as if expecting some sort of praise. Seeing as there was no immediate response, he continued*
"Soon after the lights came on, though, I was stabbed in the shoulder.  It wasn't a person, but rather, someone had left a trap in the case that the lights were turned on again.
I was injured by a makeshift spear consisting of a billiard stick and a knife. It probably weighs the same as the hammer found in the second floor's bedroom.
"Emil was there for the most part, and I managed to stop the bleeding, but by then, I already lost a fair bit of blood and couldn't move for some time... at least ten minutes.
Since I thought I was ambushed and wanted to be prepared next time, I spent at least half an hour in the furnace trying to get something decent I could defend myself with. I was too focused that I didn't notice when Emil left, but he was definitely in the furnace with me at least half an hour before the first body discovery announcement.
Err- sorry, that was long, wasn't it?"

[Arie Camillia]

How unpleasant... I was mostly around in the first floor hallway and moved to the kitchen when the first announcement happened. I remember being in the dining hall during the second announcement. I never left the first floor though if I remember correctly.

[Funny Valentine [Silentgod]]

"Okay since we pretty much know who the killer of Rin is since so many people saw it, I will say who so we can concentrate on who killed Ghost. It was me. I came in, saw Rin unconscious and Girl A holding onto Allen. Not understanding what was going on and not seeing Girl A give me the signal, I decided to taze everyone and kill Rin. Why? Because if we aren't gonna be careful, this world is gonna be destroyed and I had a theory that if we have key moments match up to the original timeline, we can stop that. And Rin died in the original timeline. Then Emil walked in and hid in the room and I brought Togami in to kill Rin for me while I took care of Emil. But he was too scared of Emil getting away. Exact words were "Are you insane, I can't kill in front of witnesses." So I tazed him as soon as he tried to wake up the others. I noticed Mei was in the room but didn't have time to deal with her. And then I tackled Rin who was getting up. A couple seconds later, she was being choked to death. Then I moved onto Girl A so I could eliminate witnesses. But then everyone started to wake up and I wasn't gonna be able to knock them all out in time. Then Crazy Emil jumped out and started hacking the body so I got out of the dodge. And also I am not saying this to protect anyone and everything I said in purple is one hundred percent true. Oh and I was on the first floor the whole time so I was not present to kill Ghost."

[King V]

"Wait just a minute, Deadpool. I was out for most of it, no thanks to you, but if what you're saying is true, that means Emil was in hiding in the assembly room and probably witnessed the entire murder! Let's have Emil confirm what you just said by giving his testimony... wait, where is Emil?"

[The City [EclipseZwolf]]

"Alright, I am about done dealing with you people and this nonsense about transparent weaponry and aliens and your motives. Lets get on with what actually matters. Also, Togami. based on the others claims he was probably slashing up Rin's corpse. Rin had something that let her evade trial. He probably took it at some point after she died."

"There are two possibilities for the death of Rin. I will go through both. But first, I will establish some preceding points. I will state some facts and some assumptions."

"First, Rin was dead before Emil ever got to his mad slashing or hacking according to Deadpool. Or whoever did the slashing, Rin was dead before then. I confirm this with my Temporal Sense, I can tell the body was dead before any of the slashes were inflicted. The oldest slash occurred a few minutes after Rin was dead. This is fact."

"Rin was alive prior to Deadpool tackling her, he implies she was being strangled to death after the tackle. This implies she was still alive. Can't kill the dead. Simple Fact."

"Deadpool is the murderer or an accomplice in the death of Rin. Based on his own testimony he had intent to kill and was a part of it, thus the culprit or accomplice if he is telling the truth."

"If Deadpool is lying in his testimony, he is the culprit or accomplice. Deadpool either has to be lying or telling the truth. By the basics of logic he is again, the culprit or the accomplice."

"Assumption, Rin died before Isumi did or almost simultaneously as Isumi. Based on us getting the first body announcement occuring prior to smelling the blood from above us where Isumi died. If Rin had been slashed first, I certainly would have smelled the blood from her SIGNIFICANTLY before smelling the blood of Isumi from above. I, Nox, heard the first body announcement and a little while later smelled the blood."

"Since Deadpool is the culprit or accomplice, his claims of never leaving the first floor could be completely false."

"Assumption, if two culprits exist, then it is possible for a person to lie[IN PURPLE] about a crime they are not involved in."

"After the trial, I stood in the first floor hallway until the second body announcement occurred. I saw many people enter the lounge before the first announcement. I never saw anyone leave until after the announcement. Working with the assumption that Rin died before Isumi, no one who was witnessed at the lounge before and during the murder of Rin could have killed Isumi."

"I saw Satori enter the Player Room Hallway and never saw her come back through the first floor hallway. Satori could not have gone and killed Isumi or Rin during this time."

"Minchey was with me in the First Floor Hallway the entire time I was there and was there when I left. With that alibi, Minchey could not have been the culprit."

"Assumption, Neither Rin nor Isumi committed suicide."

"With that out of the way, lets move into the murder of Rin."

"The first possibility is as follows. Deadpool indeed killed Rin by choking her out. The story he tells above could be mindless nonsense or the truth, the only bit that matters was he held Rin down while she was being choked out. In this possibility, he held her down by choking her to death. After that he moved to other matters and Emil moved to hack the body. She was dead by this point and Emil was hacking at a corpse. The wounds inflicted by Emil were impossible to survive anyway, so no matter what happened Rin was dead by this point. Whatever Deadpool did afterwards or before this series of events is completely unimportant. The murder weapon was raw strength and there is nothing else to it."

"The second possibility is as follows. Deadpool did NOT kill Rin, but rather was an accomplice in the crime. He held down Rin by his own admittance, if someone else came in and choked her to death or killed her by almost any means, then Deadpool assisted in their crime. If he lied about this fact he is still the culprit by the preceding points. Nothing he did matters after this point for this crime. However, since no one exited that room before the announcement, the true culprit had to have been in that room with the others and not leave. I lack the evidence to point at a specific person for that in this possibility, but that is all."

"Moving onto Isumi. Following the assumption that Rin died first or very close to when Isumi died, everyone who was at the scene of the crime for that murder could not be the culprit. Based on preceding points, Satori is not the culprit. Based on previous testimony and points, Togami is not the culprit as he was at the crime scene of Rin's murder. The killer of Isumi is one of the new players."

"I cannot make an accusation of who killed Isumi, but I can list the relevant prospect based on all the preceding points."

"None of the surviving original players is the culprit or accomplice for Isumi's death.
Togami is Innocent and Satori is innocent.
Rin was at her own scene of death and fits the criteria for innocence."

"Of the new players.
Minchey and I, Nox, were in the First Floor hallway since the last trial. We are Innocent.
All those present at Rin's death are innocent for Isumi's death. Based on testimony, these are Emil, Girl A, Deadpool, and Allen.
The remaining people are possible culprits. They are
Kyo Sohma. I haven't seen him recently. So I believe its unlikely.
Mei Misaki
Johnny Joestar. I haven't seen them almost at all. most unlikely.
Reiten Ikeda
Heihoukon. I haven't seen them much at all. Most unlikely.
Kigurumi Harokitei
Berg Katze. Has this guy even moved from that room we woke up in? Most unlikely.
Siren. I haven't seen them much at all. Most unlikely.
Stocke
Shadow Man
Boba Fett. Another person I almost never see. Most unlikely.
Mirai Kuriyama"

"Based on this information, I believe with anyone who actually investigated these will be two extremely easy cases. So, anyone actually going to speak up?"

[yaes]

*appears out of nowhere*



"Hmph. Ah well, I suppose the cat's out of the bag. Or should I say, the murderer? At-least one of them, unless they are the same person. Where to begin...

Well, first of all... I walked into the Assembly Room only to see Girl A, Allen Walker, and Rin lying on the ground unconscious, with only Deadpool standing in the midst of it all. After this, I chose to simply hide behind the bleachers and observe what was going on, since there was finally something to enjoy around here that I wasn't the instigator of. Continuing on... Togami and Mei walked into the room at that point, and Deadpool went over to speak with Togami, then walked over near where I was. I assumed it was because he noticed me, and so I simply moved behind the rows to the other side. Afterwards, Deadpool went and tasered Togami... Then suddenly Allen, Girl A, and Rin all stood up, but at that very moment, Allen tasered himself while Girl A was grabbing him and they were both knocked out once again. As for Rin... Deadpool tackled her for some reason, but suddenly Mei comes running over like a freight train and decides to start choking Rin to death. After it seemed like she had finished choking her, Deadpool suddenly ran away and Mei ran away right after. It seemed awfully weird at the time, and I thought this was a murder and accomplice... but it seemed more like Mei taking advantage of the situation over Deadpool helping out. Although the fact remains that he just stood there right next to her while Rin was being choked to death, so I suppose its an accomplice of passion? Heh. Anyway, I was a bit displeased with what just happened, but I decided to make sure that Rin was actually dead, and walked over to her. I found her to not be breathing, but more importantly... she no longer had a pulse, one-hundred-percent DEAD. I was pretty displeased at how this had all turned out, so I figured that I should enjoy the moment and perhaps cast doubt on the murder itself by hacking the body into pieces. This was done under the presumption that no one other than me had confirmed her death... but it doesn't really matter in the face of magical time control.

As for the Isumi murder, I can only confirm that Togami and Girl A remained in the room, since Allen Walker left at some point where I didn't notice him. And afterwards I was tasered by Girl A... for some reason, perhaps pent up frustration from the last trial? Or maybe she didn't appreciate modern art? Either way, I recovered 5 minutes later to find both of them still there, so assuming that Isumi was killed after Rin, all three of us have an alibi.

But I have some doubts about Isumi dying after Rin... after all, if Isumi had died after, then why would we smell blood coming from the second floor over the much more bloody, and gruesome piece of modern art that is Rin? It feels to me that Isumi might have died before Rin, but I have nothing to back it up with."

*poofs away*

[Ryo Asuka]

"Sorry, I haven't actually moved from my spot in quite some time. In fact, I've been here just chilling in the washroom for a while. The last thing I remember is that Ikeda boy throwing shampoo at me while he took a shower. After that, I'm not even sure. I wasn't even aware that a new trial had begun. So, I will try to investigate some if I can."

[Ryo Asuka]

"All right, let's get started. So, I was investigating Isumi when I noticed some things. First, was the fact that her hands were bound in front of her body and had teeth marks. This would have to mean that there was some sort of struggle for her to escape before being murdered. Also, tying her hands in front of her body instead of behind seems terribly inefficient for a murder, since it would be easier for her to move around and give her access to try biting them off. Next thing I found was that the hammer in her skull is perpendicular to her body, with part of it tied to the middle of the broom stick with duct tape. This could possibly mean that the hammer was tied to it to give it some extra force when striking. This could further be confirmed by the fact that the broom stick is broken in half. Then, I found something else interesting. Underneath the bed was a spot where the dust had been disrupted that could have been made by a person. This leads me to believe that Isumi could have been tied up and put under the bed, where she tried to bite off her restraints and wiggled out from under the bed. Then there is something else. Under the bed was also a billiard pole with a dent in the thick end. However, the way it is positioned is off. It is perpendicular to the bed, possibly because it was put there after the murder. However, it doesn't seem to have been used by the culprit to hit Isumi, considering the only wound on her is from the hammer. Well, that's what I found in the bedroom."

[Satori]

"Well it seems it has all come to this...Guess I may as well put an end to this..." 

"Shortly before Rin's murder, I entered the Lounge and saw Togami and Deadpool talking to each other. I tried to listen in to their convo but they have already finished talking before Deadpool left to the Assembly Hall. I then approached Togami and said hi to him though he didn't seem like in the mood to talk to me so I just left him alone then went into the Assembly Hall. When I entered the Assembly Hall, the first thing I saw was carnage...There I saw the unconscious bodies of Rin, Girl A and Allen lying on the floor while Deadpool was standing around them. Togami then walked in and going like "What's going on?". I then saw Rin, Girl A and Allen all get up. Allen tasered himself while Girl A was still grabbing onto him. In the middle of all the chaos. I went over to Rin just as she was tacked by Deadpool...THEN PROCEEDED TO CHOKE RIN TO DEATH! After she died. I noticed Deadpool was choking Girl A while Togami was lying on the floor unconscious and that when I decided to flee the scene..."

"To cut the story short. I confess to being the murderer of Rin and have choked her to death..."

"I did not however murder Isumi and had nothing to do with it..."

"Anyway. If you guys still don't want to believe me and want keep this trial going and waste everyone else's time...try shooting down this theory..."

"Mei Misaki is the murderer of Rin. She took advantage of the chaos going on in the Assembly Hall and choked Rin to death after she was tackled by Deadpool. After killing her, she immediately fled the scene."

"Well regardless of the outcome of this trial, I am willing to accept my fate..."

[John Dark Souls]

"I have not accepted any of these murders and I don't think any of them were even necessary in the first place, so I agree with Nox-san. We should put an end to this trial and move on soon. But, there are some points I do not agree on with Nox-san about Isumi's murder. So I think I should explain how I think it went on from my investigation progress and some information provided by everyone in trial. And then say what conclusion I came to from that information."



"*deep breath* Isumi-san, I might be jumping to horrible conclusion because of lacking some concrete proof, so before I start, I wanted to say an apology in case I am, please forgive me. But, I want to believe in you, so I will say it nonetheless."



"Nox-san, you are mistaken. Murder of Isumi-san didn't happen after Rin-san's death. Because in the first place, it was prepared from before the last trial even ended. When last trial ended the mansion was already dark. Because of no current testimonies stating otherwise, I am assuming that the last time Isumi-san was seen by anyone non-culprit before dying was right after trial ended. That means that shortly after the trial ended the murder has already started. Allow me to explain how the murder occured."

"Isumi-san went up to second floor and into bedroom or perhaps was led there by culprit, that doesn't matter. Isumi-san approached the nightstand perhaps to examine it and near there, she was KOd by the billiard pole. There is a billiard pole lying under the bed in 2nd Floor Bedroom, the thick end of that billiard pole matches the long bruise on the back of Isumi-san's head. After being KOd by culprit, Isumi-san was tied with duct tape and dragged under the bed. Isumi's arms and legs are bound by duct tape in front of her. There is a drag mark on the floor leading from side of the room near nightstand to under the bed. After being tied and dragged under the bed, Isumi-san has spent a long time under the bed. Long enough to recover her consciousness. There is a large spot where dust is disturbed under the bed, there are few strands of Isumi-san's hair under the bed. After waking up to find herself under the bed in that condition, Isumi-san tried to free herself by biting the duct tape and tearing it off with her teeth but failing to do so. The duct tape around Isumi-san's arms looks like it was chewed on. Figuring out that it was impossible, Isumi-san took the next action... She... Rolled out from under the bed... There are no drag marks from under bed to where Isumi-san's body is, the large spot under the bed is directly parallel to Isumi-san's body on the ground. And it was then... That Isumi-san died to the hammer fallen on her face... Not brought down... Fallen... *breathes in* The hammer was set on the floor and tied by duct tape together with broom in a way that would prop it to stand in exactly the place where Isumi-san's face was in when broom crushes under hammer's weight. Isumi-san rolled out from under the floor to exactly where hammer was and then the broom snapped and hammer fell down on top of her face killing her. The hammer was placed exactly on her face, the pillow and broken sweeping end of the broom that was on top of pillow have blood splatters on top of them meaning they were there already when hammer fell down, both of them are placed exactly under the hammer, there are no unnatural places with no blood splatters meaning culprit wasn't nearby to block blood splatter with their body... The hammer was a trap set there by the bed to kill Isumi-san when she rolls out... I thought she was held down in the spot where hammer fell, but that also looks impossible since there are no other injuries or unnatural marks on Isumi-san and her clothes both on front and the back. But... It makes almost no sense... Why did Isumi-san not scream or call for help? Why did Isumi-san not just stay under the bed? Why did Isumi-san not stop rolling after noticing the hammer trap? Why did Isumi-san not roll through the trap? It looks impossible to predict the exact timing the broom would snap in and make the hammer would fall down at. It is close to impossible that Isumi-san would roll out under such hammer at exactly the needed timing for hammer to fall down... Thus... My theory is following..."



"Isumi-san rolled under the hammer of her own free will... In order not to let anyone become the culprit... In order to prevent the culprit from being executed... In order to prevent anyone else from dying... Isumi-san gave away her life of her own free will... It was a suicide using trap someone else prepared..."



"Ironic, isn't it..? I mean, the "culprit" who prepared the trap that Isumi-san tried to protect is no longer with us as well after all... Yes, the one who prepared the trap and planned to murder Isumi-san is Rin-san... I didn't think so at first but hearing Reiten-san's testimony about duct taped furnace and a trap there, all dots connected. Rin-san wasn't present during most of first trial meaning she was able to prepare for the murder to execute it right after trial ended. She duct taped the door to furnace and even made a trap inside, all to buy time for her to execute the murder while light was still out... And by the time light got back, Rin-san already finished all preparations and was free to run around the mansion... She probably never expected for karma to strike her down before the trial even started..."



"Seriously... Just what kind of scenario is this... Isumi-san... Rin-san... Why..?"

[Ryo Asuka]

"I agree with Girl A about Rin being the culprit for Isumi. Her motive makes sense. She was extremely devoted to Satori and was willing to do anything to get her master out of here alive. If she had killed before, which I'm sure she had, then all it would take is one more murder to get out of here. However, with two of the best detectives on the case, it was safer for her to go after one of us, the new people. So, she managed to kidnap Isumi, tie her up, put her under the bed, and set the trap. However, for some reason or another, Isumi went into the trap. I am not totally sold on the theory that Isumi gave her life to save us all thing, but maybe she did. I mean, if she knew that Rin already killed someone, then being killed by Rin's trap and Rin getting away with it could possibly be considered Rin's second successful kill. However, there is the fact that Rin set up a trap instead of killing her right away. Isumi could have easily rolled out the other way and avoided death. If Rin needed that second kill, then why not just get it over with? However, due to the theory of Rin killing Isumi being the most possible at the moment, then I will agree with Girl A's theory."

[King V]

-the speakers overhead turn on-

"Congratulations! A completely accurate theory for each of the murders has been given! As a result, I will accept both of these theories and hereby end the trial."

"Mei, it looks like you just wanted Rin dead, hmm? You didn't even try to get away with your crime, even after Deadpool tried to cover for you."

"And Isumi... committing suicide like that, just what WERE you thinking? Well, it doesn't matter now."

"Let's commence the execution."