Marie
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The Showgirl
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Post by Marie on Aug 11, 2015 18:50:35 GMT -8
When I went to go attack Sea he would have put up a struggle so I had to use my shield to knock him out. I hit him so hard he broke the mirror and shards of the mirror is in his shoulder.
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Post by Heihoukon [Tsurugi] on Aug 11, 2015 18:50:41 GMT -8
"Silly Trucy, but you still haven't cleared up yet another contradiction. You still claim that you used chairs and a fabric to block the doors behind you? Well, that still doesn't explain how you could have blocked up the Poseidon Room door!" *Presents Verbal Sword #3: The chairs and Indrid's corpse were pulled under the doorknobs with something that was burned.
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Post by Satori on Aug 11, 2015 19:01:00 GMT -8
When I went to go attack Sea he would have put up a struggle so I had to use my shield to knock him out. I hit him so hard he broke the mirror and shards of the mirror is in his shoulder.
I SHALL CONQUER THAT CLAIM!
Verbal Sword #10 - Komaeda had no bruise on his head.
Unlike the 3 victims, Komaeda didn't have any bruises on his head which means he wasn't KO'd by a shield!
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Marie
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The Showgirl
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Post by Marie on Aug 11, 2015 19:09:09 GMT -8
I...But...I just.... ... ......I..... ....did....it..... I... did it.... I did it... I did it. .... IDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDITIDIDIT!!!*Takes a deep breath*Alright? You want the full story? Well here it is! I attack Sea, then like the coward he is he ran away. From there I chases after him but he disappeared, with Junko in the room I had to take her out. So I knocked her out when Rob walked in. With Rob KOed I went over to Junko killing her first. Then Indrid came him. I had to kill him too. So I knocked him out and killed him. Then I killed Rob last. First I dragged them to the apollo room, going to hide them there after that I dragged them to the other rooms and pulled Indrid a bit with one of his threads. I spread around ashes from the oven downstairs in Indrid and Junko's areas. I burnt part of the chairs and then I closed the doors to each of the room. Using my ability of Switch-a-roo I can change any item of any location as long as I know it's location. So with that I locked all the room. ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT? IS THAT WHAT YOU WANTED?
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Post by Pokedude12 on Aug 11, 2015 19:18:06 GMT -8
"Oven was cold. Ash downstairs was cold. Ash upstairs is warm. How do you burn ash more than it already is?"
Switch-a-roo... Are you a Pokemon!?
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Post by Heihoukon [Tsurugi] on Aug 11, 2015 19:27:41 GMT -8
Furious with Trucy's ridiculous claims, Zacharias slams his fist against the desk. "Enough of these shenanigans! I refer back to my previously used attack!" *Presents Verbal Sword #3: The chairs and Indrid's corpse were pulled under the doorknobs with something that was burned.*
"The chairs and Indrid's corpse were pulled under the doorknobs! They didn't simply teleport to the other side of the door! If they did that, Venera and I could have easily pushed the rooms open!" "Also, Rob was not killed after Junko." *Presents Verbal Sword #4 - Rob was the first victim laid in their place.*
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Marie
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The Showgirl
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Post by Marie on Aug 11, 2015 19:57:06 GMT -8
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!! ... ..... Pl... Please. Please convict me... I... It.... *starts to tear up* It was all my fault... I hid... I could have saved them.... But instead I hid a little game... And now... I could have protected them... I should have been there to protect them... We were Team Athena... And I left them alone... I betrayed their trust... I should have been the one to get killed! I should have been there with them! I deserve to be punished for this crime because I let them die! -Falls to knees sobbing.- W-Why can't any of you understand that!? Why... Why would you let me go... When I couldn't protect Pervert or Grandpa... -Now is just mumbling in between sobbing gasps.-
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Post by Kai, Prince of V on Aug 11, 2015 22:28:41 GMT -8
*Presents Verbal Sword #4 - Rob was the first victim laid in their place.* Verbal Sword #4 has been adjusted to represent a more reasonable assumption.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2015 22:31:30 GMT -8
Bambi's slumped over astral projection appears before she stirs, hearing Trucy's sobbing. "Right... I almost forgot. Indrid is dead." she sighed, adjusting herself against the wall. The wall they couldn't see, of course. "Explain things thus far, please. And Trucy, why are you crying...? You never told me." she stated, grimacing. "Did you ever get to the infirmary?"
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Post by Pokedude12 on Aug 12, 2015 15:59:57 GMT -8
Victims: Rob, Indrid, and Junko Weapons: Weapon with a Circular, Blunt End Culprit: Komaeda Route: Gallery of Mirrors>F1 Lounge>Gallery of the Princess>Rotunda>(Any one room adjacent to Rotunda; Likely Artemis, unless the blunt object was silent. Then Apollo is just as likely)>Artemis (and any necessary rooms to reach it, if applicable)>Rotunda>Apollo*>Rotunda>Artemis>Dionysos>Artemis>Poseidon>Artemis>Rotunda*>End. >Any room between the two asterisk marks includes the opportunity to lay blood drips. Details: Komaeda got the mirror shards from the Gallery, and also grabbed some thread and possibly a candle, along with a weapon with a circular blunt end. He went up to F3, located them all, then killed them all with the blunt weapon (repeated bludgeoning). He then moved two of the deceased bodies to the Apollo Room to stab with the shards, which caused the blood trails. He then left one there, then moved the other to the Artemis Room to trap it in the Poseidon Room, which is where Indrid is. Afterward, he pulled the door shut, and pulled the string with the chair to the door. He then pierced Junko's body in the Artemis Room and moved it to the Dionysos Room. He then set up the sealing mechanism with a string and a flammable object, presumably stronger than a candle. He then lit the body on fire, then closed the door behind him, the chair in place to hold the door. The flame would quickly burn through the path and become ash. He then rubbed out the ash and moved on his way. >Between moving the bodies, he gathered enough blood to lay splotching drops from the Rotunda to the Grand Ballroom (This includes his own as well). (Edit: He dragged Indrid there, rather than drop blood on the path there) >The culprit could also prepare an extra thread for the Poseidon Room, rather than one. Reasoning: Komaeda has been brought up numerous times as having been a victim in the case, but is lacking a key wound that the other bodies are missing: the bruise. Coincidentally, he's also living. I'm inferring that he's wounded from shattering the glass shards and stabbing them into other people, or perhaps he's wounded himself as cover. He also has not commented on his wounds at all during this trial, when the leading theory claims he was the first intended victim. If he has no comment, I can take his silence as agreement to a flawed murder plan. Furthermore, he should be able to testify to his being attacked. >There are also numerous bruises on the head. It's much more likely that the victims were killed then, and the glass shards were cover up. BS post, here I come!
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Post by Heihoukon [Tsurugi] on Aug 12, 2015 16:03:57 GMT -8
Zacharias decided through all the silence to make another theory to speed up this trial's pace. "Well, I sure hope you fools don't want this poor girl to die without knowing the dark truth about Team Athena! Oh, you do?! All right then... Well, I guess I'll throw this theory out anyway to make myself feel special..." "Allow me to walk through the case. I believe I know both the accomplice and the killer." {A Prescription for Death} Murder Weapon: Mirror Shards Victims: Rob, Junko, and Komaeda Accomplice: Komaeda Culprit: Indrid Murder Route: Indrid knocked out both Rob and Junko in the Rotunda with the help of his shield. Komaeda burnt Junko's body after Indrid killed both Rob and Junko and moved both corpses into the Apollo Room and dragged Junko's body into the Dionysos Room, and he set up the locked room chair there while Indrid was working on the Apollo Room with Rob's body behind it. Indrid attacked Komaeda, killed him, and later revived Komaeda in the Poseidon Room, killing himself in the process. Komaeda set up Indrid's body to look like both Rob and Junko's and then used the lock room trick on Indrid's corpse to get out of the room and stabbed himself in the Rotunda with the mirror shards. Closing Argument: Komaeda broke one of the mirrors in the Gallery of Mirrors and took some shards with him. He offered his services as an accomplice of "hope" to Indrid, who came up with a murder plan for the third floor. Once most of the third floor was clear, Indrid knocked out Rob and Junko in the Rotunda using his shield, dragged their bodies into the Apollo Room, and killed them both there. After Rob and Junko were dead, Indrid allowed Komaeda to set Junko's body on fire, but in the process, Komaeda got ash all over his clothes. Komaeda dragged Junko's body to the Dionysos Room. The ash around the area makes it very likely Komaeda was helping Indrid move Junko's body while Indrid was thinking up a way to lock up Rob in the Apollo Room. Indrid decided to use a candle he got earlier, a thread likely from one of the suits in the Selene Room to pull the chair under the doorknobs from the Rotunda using the gap under the door, creating the illusion of a locked room murder. Meanwhile, Komaeda did the same method with the Dionysos Room after he had made the blood and ash trails to the Dionysos room. After all of this was done, Indrid killed Komaeda in the Rotunda and dragged his body covered in blood and ashes into the Poseidon Room. Indrid then revived Komaeda using his healer ability, causing himself to die in the process. After Indrid died in the Poseidon Room, Komaeda woke up, set up Indrid's body to look like it was murdered alongside Rob and Junko, and used Indrid's body with some thread and the candle to seal off the Poseidon Room as well. After this, he stabbed himself in the Rotunda with the mirror shards he still had on him, and he crawled toward the Grand Ballroom bleeding to Venera. Komaeda likely went unconscious because his newly revived body wasn't fully able to take that much blood loss without succumbing to it and passing out.
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Post by The City [EclipseZwolf] on Aug 12, 2015 16:35:32 GMT -8
-Nox leans against his podium and a his finger taps the stand with a clock like precision-
So, The paladin himself claims that a revival due to magic occurred? I am of a mind to believe it. He was the only one who notices when I slow down time and that is proof enough for me to not deny that theory on the premise of a revival. I cannot confirm this, as no one else bore witness to my location or the event, but allow me to offer what I myself bore witness too.
I was in the Grand Ballroom from before the murder began, to when it ended and I witnessed one Zacharius and Trucy taking Komaeda from the room. Let there be no doubt that I was there, for I was hidden atop one of the many chandeliers held up high in the darkness. I sat atop there and heard nor saw nothing over the course of the murder as far as I am aware. The first item that reached my notice was when I suddenly heard Komaeda screaming in pain and agony. I saw him on the ground far away with the glass shards inside him. Then I witnessed Trucy and Zacharious take him away.
Though this doesn't assist with anything during the murder, it does assist the ending. Komaeda most definitely was in the Grand Ballroom and I did not notice him or anything for that matter until the screaming began and at that time he was lying on the floor. I support The Paladin's theory. I cannot think of any other reason why I would not hear the assault occur inside the room or why I would not hear Komaeda screaming prior to being in the throne room or at least moving.
I lend the voice of Nox to the Paladin.
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Post by King V on Aug 12, 2015 19:53:20 GMT -8
Hello again everyone! Sorry for being late, but you know what they say. The hero is always late to the party. I see we've already begun accusing me of being the culprit! Wonderful! This group's hope will surely rise like this! But, all of you should make sure you're on the right track, not the wrong one! I see you all have been waiting a while for my testimony. Well, wait no longer! I even have some blades to back myself up! Let's start from the beginning. I was getting a little impatient from the lack of extraordinary people in this group, and so I decided to gather everyone and prompt them to step up their efforts. I made my way to the third floor, a little slower than I would like, I admit, due to the size of this palace. Of course, I eventually reached the third floor and went on a look around. I saw three rooms upon arriving, the Apollo Room, the Artemis Room, and the Grand Ballroom. I took the path into the Artemis Room, for Apollo represents the sun, and those who are extraordinary must have gathered inside, so those who were ordinary must have been in the Artemis Room! But sadly, I didn't find anyone in the Artemis Room. Even more depressing is the fact that I was attacked shortly after arriving. A murderer who didn't even bother discussing their plans with me! I could have helped improve the plan by so much! ... Well anyways, I was hit in the back of the head with something, but I was fortunate and my luck deflected the hit. But before I could turn around and catch a glimpse of my attacker, I was immediately pushed down and stabbed several times. I think the attacker meant to aim for my neck, but I was fortunate yet again and was only stabbed in the upper arms. Unfortunately, however, when I tried to look for the attacker, I only saw a door being closed, the door to the Poiseden Room. I tried to move, but I was losing blood rapidly, and could only crawl my way towards the Rotunda where there might be more people. I noticed some movement in the Grand Ballroom and crawled that way before I called for help and lost consciousness at the entrance. From what I can tell, the culprit continued their plan from where they left off after I managed to escape. I imagine they wouldn't have wanted causing more of a scene and attracting attention after failing to both knock me out and kill me. Ah, I would say what my opinion on the murder is, but I think I've said enough for now. But with this, it should be easy to find the culprit and raise our group's hope!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2015 20:38:11 GMT -8
"Let's go over things that everyone here sees as undeniable facts. And please, correct me if I miss anything...." ((Things presented as verbal swords earlier will be blue. Theorized parts will be in green.))
The ashes found did not originate from Junko's body. However, could her clothes have left the ashes?
Rob was the first victim laid in his place. Meaning he was the first person the murderer was able to get to after all the victims were dead.
All three victims were wounded in the Rotunda. But the Rotunda was not each person's place of death.
The chairs and Indrid's corpse were pulled under the doors of the Poseidon room with something that was burned. Two things were burned. One of them being Junko. Another being a type of rope, right?
Komaeda had no bruise on his head. Now he does. When didn't he have it?
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Post by Pokedude12 on Aug 12, 2015 21:17:39 GMT -8
"If you're implying it was the old man, you should just say so. You were awake until you reached the entrance of the Grand Ballroom. The knightly fellow and the upstart magician aided you where they could see the Rotunda, right? Then the culprit couldn't leave until they opened the Apollo Door. Several minutes after Rob's body was found, I went from the Helios Room to the Grand Ballroom. However, I took some time to examine some things in the Rotunda; and I could be wrong, but I don't recall seeing anyone there at the time. Plus, the duo had gone to the Artemis Room instead, a bit after I went to the Grand Ballroom I presume. I know it isn't much in terms of locking down time, especially if the culprit's fast; but there really isn't much time to be finishing a murder, then running off.
Oh, right. The redhead in the Helios Room's probably innocent, since she was there longer than me and was just spacing out apparently. I can't say anything else about the others' alibis, except that I'm in favor of the blocky robot's innocence as well."
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